Rodny Alcala (serial killer) recommended for Death Penalty by jury in Los Angeles

[itsrobert]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/03/orange-county-jury-recommends-death-for-alcala-for-third-time.html

JURY RECS DEATH PENALTY.

REPORTED ON KABC 7 NEWS.

For those that are not aware. He killed 1 girl and 4 women. And most likely killed more.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/02/rodney-alcala-guilty-in-slayings-of-girl-and-4-women.html

In the future, if you don't know about the subject, you are free to ask for more information, you don't need to get all sarcastic and all high and mighty about it. I assumed people knew who this monster is. A monster who tortured his victims before he killed them.

[proud2BlibKansan]

1. Who is Rodney Alcala?

[Warpy]

15. Serial rapist/murderer

who raped and murdered 4 women and one 12 year old girl between 1977-1979.

I don't want him to get the DP, it's too quick. I want him to sit in the can for the rest of his useless, rotten life.

The other prisoners will not be nice to a child rapist.

[proud2BlibKansan]

41. Thanks. I hate OPs like this.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. The death penalty is immoral.

Always. For anybody.

[malaise]

4. +1 n/t

[itsrobert]

6. I use to be believe that

Not anymore.

[frylock]

49. did all those death row inmates that were exonerated change your mind?

[applegrove]

79. Yup.

[Codeine]

3. SOMETHING'S HAPPENING TO SOMEONE!!!

JUST REPORTED SOMEWHERE!!

[Texasgal]

7. LOL!

I love these stupid assed posts!

CALL CONGRESS RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!! :rofl:

[Common Sense Party]

13. And they must have done something to someone!

[tularetom]

25. Breaking News! Some Bullshit Happening Somewhere!

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/breaking_news_some_bullshit

[Liquorice]

5. I don't support the death penalty generally, but I don't care what they do with this monster. nt

[Warren Stupidity]

8. soon the whole world is blind. nt.

[cali]

9. nope. not even for him.

I am against the dp 100% of the time.

[madmax]

36. I admire you

I still struggle with it. Mostly against it but, then...

[Shell Beau]

10. Who is this Rodney guy?

[itsrobert]

17. hmm

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/02/rodney-alcala-guilty-in-slayings-of-girl-and-4-women.html

You must not be paying attention.

[Shell Beau]

19. I guess I haven't been paying attention. Never heard of this.

[The Midway Rebel]

44. Contrary to popular belief, LA is not the center of the Universe.

And, I am aginst the death penalty. Un recc'd

[itsrobert]

60. I'm in San Diego

I also know there was a Tornado in Oklahoma yesterday. And a Earthquake in Turkey the other day. Farrah Fawcett did not get a mention at the Oscars.

[The Midway Rebel]

74. Yeah.

I'm still against the death penalty.

[bluestateguy]

11. Who?

Didn't he play 3rd Base for the Yankees a few years back?

[petersjo02]

12. I hate posts like this, also

Who the heck is Rodney Alcala? Might be nice if you gave us a clue what you're talking about.

[itsrobert]

18. Come on

Are people so lazy that they don't know how to look things up anymore?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

24. Come on,

Are people so lazy that they don't know how to start a thread that has some actual information and isn't just an all-caps rant?

[itsrobert]

35. Information is there. The recommended sentence

and the Name of the individual. Excuse me, I give DU members more credit than the avergage joe off the street.

[Shell Beau]

46. So instead of you posting a link, you'd rather everyone else have to

google it?

[itsrobert]

56. Real hard work

isn't it? How about if I bring you some cheese?

[Shell Beau]

59. No it isn't. It makes no sense though.

One person could google it and post it, or 50+ could google it.

And when you edited, you brought up sarcasm, but you are the one being very sarcastic.

[itsrobert]

61. Yes, no replies were sarcastic

Oh, I did it again.

[Shell Beau]

65. Mine weren't, yet you were still sarcastic with me.

go figure

[Texasgal]

29. No... You have the burden to post a link

if you want your story discussed.

It has nothing to do with laziness. :eyes:

[itsrobert]

39. What does BREAKING NEWS mean to you

I gave you the source. KABC TV. How am I going to give you a link to a tv station over the air news story that is breaking?


get real.

[Texasgal]

78. Dude...post a fucking link to your story

next time, that's what happens here on DU. Jeez.

[Codeine]

30. Conversely,

are you so lazy as to be unable to include at least the most basic information in your OP? One would think the onus was on you, actually. :shrug:

[tkmorris]

33. Umm, you posted the thread

I don't mind looking things up but you can't expect people to look up information critical to your post that you didn't bother to include. The onus for that falls on you.

For the record I also did not know who he was and I DO pay attention, though perhaps not to the same things you do.

[Beaverhausen]

14. some info on him

Serial killer Alcala pleads for life at OC trial
By The Associated Press

Tuesday, March 9, 2010 at 12:30 p.m.

SANTA ANA, Calif. — Convicted serial killer Rodney Alcala has asked an Orange County jury to spare his life.

Alcala gave his own closing arguments Tuesday in the penalty phase of his trial for raping and murdering a 12-year-old Huntington Beach girl and four women in the 1970s.

Alcala, who's 66, told jurors that if they recommend death instead of life in prison without parole, his case would be on appeal for another 15 to 20 years.

He also played jurors a song from the Arlo Guthrie album "Alice's Restaurant."

Earlier, a prosecutor called Alcala an "evil monster" who knows he's done wrong and doesn't care.

A defense psychiatrist testified last week that Alcala, who claims he can't remember some of his actions, has a borderline personality disorder.

The Associated Press

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/mar/09/serial-killer-alcala-pleads-for-life-at-oc-trial/

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

20. Yes, he's a very, very bad guy. The death penalty is immoral anyhow,

even as applied to very, very bad guys. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

[Beaverhausen]

22. I agree with you

I didn't know who he was so I googled his name. That was the first link that came up.

[KamaAina]

38. "his case would be on appeal for another 15 to 20 years. "

And he's 66.

Looks like the clock's gonna run out before our allegedly civilized state can "inject the bastard". :nopity:

[NightWatcher]

16. how very Progressive of you, NOT!!! Anti-Death Penalty all the time

He can do no more harm to Society if he is locked away for Life. The State does not need to teach someone that murder(?) is wrong by killing them.

oh, and who is Rodney Alcalala

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

23. So injuring or killing prison gaurds causes no harm to society. How progressive of you, NOT!

[NightWatcher]

28. well, shit, let's kill em all and let gawd sort em out.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

31. At least you admit you were wrong.

[mitchum]

62. But guards and fellow inmates are just the underclass and don't really count as society

[REP]

34. If they'd done that after he'd raped his first 8 year old, we wouldn't be having this discussion

Instead he was freed and went on The Dating Game. And then raped and murdered four more.

[yawnmaster]

70. Five more, as far as we know. eom

[G_j]

21. WTF? execution. ...all caps?

:thumbsdown:

[itsrobert]

26. Your problem

Deal with it.

[G_j]

47. so you are here to celebrate an execution?

I KNOW YOU ARE VERY HAPPY ABOUT THE DEATH OF SOMEONE I NEVER HEARD OF,
THAT IS WHY YOU HAD TO SAY IT IN CAPS!

I'm poking you a bit, because I think the death penalty is a crime, and celebrating any death is abhorrent to me.

no problem, just my 2cents

[fascisthunter]

27. woah

[The Magistrate]

32. It Sounds, Sir, Both Well-Deserved And Long Over-Due....

[REP]

37. Very much over due.

[emilyg]

43. Yes.

[tkmorris]

40. Justice should never be colored by vengeance

The death penalty is an archaic holdover from mankind's infancy. It's time we grow up I say.

[Political Heretic]

66. Devils Advocate: Some say justice includes retribution.

Are not victims entitled to retribution?

(Note: I oppose the death penalty. But I enjoy discussing it.)

[tkmorris]

80. No. They are not..

I admit that is merely my opinion but it is one I feel strongly about. Retribution is the root of many an evil in this world. See Israel/Palestine, Turkey/Kurds, everyone in the former Yugoslavia, and numerous places in Africa from Eritrea to the Congo to Rwanda and many more. The concept of retribution does nothing but demand more blood. Enough.

[nadinbrzezinski]

42. Nope, not even for him

my ONLY exception, and not for the deterrent issue, since it does not work... is for those responsible for genocide... as in giving the direct orders. And even then I take pause at taking ANY human live, no matter how horrific the crime.

In case some folks need a translation.

Hitler,

Stalin

Pol Pot

Milosowitch....

Yes that includes a few in our own government as well.

And in most cases they never EVAH face the music anyway. But we celebrate it when a small time criminal gets it.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

45. OH DAMN, YO!

[Shell Beau]

48. I didn't know who he was. I must have missed it on the news I watch.

And it surely wasn't on my local news.

[DevonRex]

50. See, this is why I'd like to outlaw capital punishment. Because I'd want to execute this guy.

Just like I wanted to execute Timothy McVeigh. One of my friends was blown through a wall in OKC.

But I'm against the death penalty. And I'm smart enough to know that emotions get the best of us at times. Even anti-death penalty folks like me.

That being said, it's not like this guy didn't know that he might get death if he were ever caught. He did know. And he kept on raping and murdering. A child for God's sake. A little girl. Will I have any sympathy for him if he's finally executed? No. He knew what he was doing. But I still want to outlaw the death penalty.

I think many of us go through the thought process I just typed out. We're human and we have complex thoughts and complex emotions. And we know the death penalty is wrong, no matter how much we'd like to hurt those murdering bastards.

[Shell Beau]

55. I agree with you.

I am conflicted at times with the death penalty. I am 99% against it, but I guess really it is more that I am against it, I just won't weep when those people are gone. I won't rejoice in their death, but I won't mourn them either. This guy sounds like a real monster. But the death penalty is wrong, morally.

[DevonRex]

68. You do know exactly how I feel, then. I won't shed a tear for him, either.

Or for any of these serial killers who keep on doing it even when the death penalty is a possibility.

But it's morally wrong. Yes. And I sure as hell don't trust the justice system enough to believe an innocent person has never been or will never be executed. I say that as a former member of law enforcement.

Most cops are good. A few are bad. Even the good ones make honest mistakes. And that shouldn't be the difference between life and death for an innocent person.

[rug]

51. Anybody who posts in all caps should be executed.

[DevonRex]

53. Especially when somebody in the room (me) has a migraine. nt

[flvegan]

52. So he gets off easy.

Proper punishment would see him locked away until he takes his last breath naturally.

[aikoaiko]

73. I wish I could believe that... but they never have their defense lawyers argue for the DP

instead of life. Almost never, I think there was a case once).

[flvegan]

75. That's because losing one's life is seen as the ultimate penalty.

It may well be. You have nothing more meaningful to give up. However, it's not proper punishment. He'll suffer less with the DP.

[mitchum]

54. Here is the monster's Dating Game appearance...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpy5AZsEnLg

[madinmaryland]

57. Un-recced.

I oppose the DP. What he did is reprehensible, but he should spend the rest of his life in a 6x8 cell ALONE thinking about what he did.

[mitchum]

58. But that would actually give him pleasure AKA masturbation fodder

[madinmaryland]

64. Yeah. Let him beat off until his dick falls off. Then what.

[mitchum]

71. I'm just pointing out that his "thinking about what he has done" will not engender remorse

monsters like that are wired differently

[madinmaryland]

77. Yes, monsters are wired differently. But is society going to

stoop to murder, also? It cannot be called "self-defense"

[Political Heretic]

63. I do not support the death penalty.

That is all.

[TroglodyteScholar]

67. KILL! KILL! KILL!

n/t.

[aikoaiko]

69. The death penalty sounds like a good option for this convicted criminal.

The crimes were heinous.
The evidence led to the jury to a certainty regarding guilt (DNA, fingerprints, and 2 hour verdict).

He's good to go.

[Kitty Herder]

72. I'm opposed to the death penalty in most cases.

But for serial killers, I make an exception.

[proteus_lives]

76. Good. Put him down.

No reason for Alcala to stay on the planet.

[old mark]

81. Good. Hope they don't wait 40 years to do it. nt