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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 08:46 PM
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Dems To White House: Enough With The Health Care Timelines Already
Edited on Tue Mar-09-10 09:11 PM by bigtree
from TPM: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/03/dems-to-white-house-enough-with-the-health-care-timelines-already.php


March 9, 2010, 8:09PM

Congressional Democrats are under increasing pressure to finish up health care reform, but they've had enough of the White House dictating deadlines to them. And at a bicameral leadership meeting this afternoon--attended by White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel and other administration officials--they made that very clear.

"I was at a meeting with Rahm Emanuel and he was certainly informed that we don't feel that we want any deadline assigned to us," House Energy and Commerce Chairman Henry Waxman told a few reporters outside of a Democratic caucus meeting this evening. "We want to pass the bill, we want to make sure it's the way it should be, and soon as possible, but we don't feel that we have to have any particular deadline."

I asked Waxman how Emanuel reacted to the pushback?

"He said he would pass it on," Waxman said with a smirk.

Emerging from the bicameral meeting, Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin described deadlines as "a blessing and a curse."

If it wasn't already clear to the Obama administration that the pressure was unwelcome, it is now.

read more: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/03/dems-to-white-house-enough-with-the-health-care-timelines-already.php

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House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) and the White House on Tuesday engaged in a rare public dispute over when healthcare reform will be voted on.

Hoyer on Tuesday morning suggested the March 18 deadline recently set by White House press secretary Robert Gibbs was not endorsed by congressional leaders.

“None of us have mentioned the 18th other than Mr. Gibbs,” Hoyer told reporters when asked if March 18 was still a “viable” date for the House to vote on the Senate bill, a package of legislative fixes and a possible third item dealing with abortion language.

Gibbs didn’t back down Tuesday afternoon, saying there “seems to be a disconnect” between Congress and the White House before stopping himself to add, “This was information I was given based on conversations that people had in this building with Capitol Hill.”

He also said, “I’ve been given nothing that would change that advice that I was given last week.”

Gibbs, a former Senate aide, first threw down the March 18 deadline last week, citing President Barack Obama’s desire to sign healthcare legislation prior to an overseas trip he is scheduled to begin that day.

“Our objective is to pass both healthcare and the 2010 budget before the Easter break,” Hoyer said. “Is that going to be difficult? Yes. Is it a deadline? No.

“If we can, we can. If we can’t, we can’t,” Hoyer added. “We will continue to pursue both items.”

read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/85825-disconnect-gibbs-hoyer-dispute-vote
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 08:49 PM
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1. Gee, they only had all year. Get it together already.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 08:54 PM
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4. I think I'd rather they take their time
. . . and work through the reconciliation process deliberately, but carefully. I don't want the type of pressure we saw before Christmas. That's artificial, unnecessary, and unhelpful.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 08:52 PM
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2. So your position is Obama showed no leadership
for the entire last year - but then when he does show leadership, he's an asshole and exhibiting unwelcome pressure.

Is that it?
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 08:56 PM
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5. He should demonstrate leadership in fighting for a strong public option and against taxing health
benefits for starters.

Any chance that will happen anytime soon?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 09:03 PM
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10. Congress is clearly writing the bill
And they very clearly do not want any "unwelcome pressure" from the White House. So why don't you put your two cents where it belongs, the way many of us have said all along.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:42 PM
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16. The Senate has written the bill that Obama pretty much wanted.

There was no pressure on the Senators who wrote the bill! All of the White House pressure has been on members of the House who wanted a strong bill!

Now the White House is trying to strong arm House progessives into voting for the Senate bill with no changes!

Oh .... they do say that the Senate may include some modest fixes in a Senate reconciliation bill .... if they can get the Senate votes. But, President Obama says the vote are not even there to pass a modest and weak public option!

The only thing trusting progressives might see in a Senate reconciliation bill is a right-wing "Republican" fix like "tort reform"!
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 08:58 PM
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9. who are you talking to?
They're talking about arbitrary, politically-driven deadlines, like the pressure we saw last year to just pass anything (it seemed). Leadership is fine, but the president is just one voice in this process (albeit, a big one). I'm comfortable letting our Democratic legislators work this process in their own time, now that they're acting like a majority again.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 09:39 PM
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13. I don't think they are acting like a majority. The republicans are acting like a majority. nt
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 09:41 PM
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14. well,
. . . it looks like they're considering acting like one on this legislation.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 09:42 PM
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15. Let's hope so.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 08:52 PM
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3. First they bitch about the White House not being involved enough
then--Oh, never mind.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 08:57 PM
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7. Not true. Just involved in the wrong way. For example, President Obama cutting a backdoor deal
Edited on Tue Mar-09-10 08:58 PM by Better Believe It
with the insurance industry and big Pharma in order to get their legislation passed.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 08:56 PM
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6. Hurry up and finish it. He's got his speech ready.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 08:58 PM
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8. It's easy, just expand Medicare to every American from the cradle to the grave, either all at once
or rapidly phase it in.

Raise taxes on the mega wealthy and phase for profit "health" insurance corporate employees in to the expanded Medicare bureaucracy or subsidize their training and placement toward sustainable green based jobs.

Thanks for the thread, bigtree.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 09:06 PM
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11. soooooo?
Republicans want Democrats fighting each other!

Guess there are Dems everywhere willing to help them out!

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 09:14 PM
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12. Congress asking for room to breathe
I'm inclined to agree with the folks who are cited here with their concerns - at least now that the party is considering their majority in Congress in a new light with respect to this legislation.
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