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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 03:33 PM
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Passing the Private Insurance Industry and Big Pharma Protection Act ensures A Republican Congress
Edited on Wed Mar-10-10 03:35 PM by Better Believe It
and President will be elected in 2012.

The Republicans will campaign against the proposed health insurance excise tax, the 500 billion in Medicare cuts that will hurt the elderly and will promise to stop the government from forcing people to buy expensive private health insurance during economic hard times.

Those will be three of their major talking points centered around their demagogic populist sounding propaganda pledging to go after the big insurance companies by repealing the health insurance act.

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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 03:35 PM
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1. Yet if what you said was actually true, the GOP would be supporting the bill
yet they are in complete opposition. go figure
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557188 Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 04:07 PM
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10. What?
If they want to use the bill against the Democrats, and they do, they want to look like they were united fighting against it.

Not much of a strategist are you?
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 04:47 PM
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13. If the Progressive Caucus supports it & repubs and insurance industry oppose it,
it is alright in my book. Not the bill I would write, but with that array of supporters and detractors, I'll support it.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 03:43 PM
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2. As the president said
"this is the right thing to do". Screw the Republicans and screw the elections. There are people out there in dire need of health care. To do nothing for them at this moment is not an option.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 04:03 PM
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6. The insurance industry bill won't help them. That has been fully documented on DU

It will prevent the establishment of a universal health care system for a generation and put our lives and health in the hands of the insurance industry and big Pharma.

Everyone knows the purpose of the health insurance industry is to deny healthcare, not provide it.

That's how they make money.

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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 03:45 PM
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3. Thanks a hell of a whole lot. I can hear that from the repub talking heads on Tweety's show too.
If that were so damned true why are the repubs warning us about that very outcome? Maybe they know something you don't. Maybe after the bill is passed people may start to see through the repub lies.

Suppose you are a person who was turned down for insurance because of a prior condition and after the bill passes you can buy insurance at a more affordable rate than before and you can be covered no matter what your prior conditions were. I guess those things would drive you into the hands of the repubs.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 04:05 PM
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8. They don't want Dems getting credit. Health Ins. stock values have held strong. nt
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 03:47 PM
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4. Nope. You're Wrong. Better Believe that. n/t
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 03:59 PM
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5. I hope you are right. But a jobless recovery combined with the insurance industry bill will hurt

and the Republicans will exploit this to the max.
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subterranean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 04:07 PM
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11. You're assuming we'll still be in a jobless recovery in 2014.
That's when the mandate will take effect.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 05:53 PM
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14. Unemplyment will probably be about 8% not including several million workers who are not counted.

Or, we could be in dip two of a double dip great recession with an "official" unemployment rate of well over 10%.
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subterranean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 04:04 PM
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7. Yup, Republicans will say bad things about it. Better not risk that.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 04:05 PM
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9. 2 illegal occupations sucking the country dry, health insurance giveaways
the list is very long as to why there will be a bloodbath.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 04:17 PM
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12. They might be able to BS through till it goes into effect
When most people get nothing but screwed it will start to be a real problem.

Just the folks pissed they not only don't get access to the system but are literally forced by law to buy whatever shit work serves them alone will be rough to smooth out. As time goes on and it becomes clear that almost nothing has been done to address the root causes, a gnashing of teeth even from many even the staunch supporters of today might result in a full on collapse.

In retrospect people's vision will improve, I strongly suspect. Trading away the farm and then some to correct what should be criminal behavior and even then only for the rare person that can afford the rates is not going to look smart or ethical in the rearview.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 05:55 PM
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15. The Dry Powder Democrats slink gleefully back into the Minority
whoopee!
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