Howard Stern takes me from sheer delight to utter comtempt

[CatWoman]

Wonder if she were male would he feel the same way?

Howard Stern slams Gabourey Sidibe over weight, says her career is over - but she's got new roles

Howard Stern blasted "Precious" star Gabourey Sidibe on his Monday radio show, viciously mocking her weight and doubting her abilities as an actress.

"There's the most enormous, fat black chick I've ever seen. She is enormous. Everyone's pretending she's a part of show business and she's never going to be in another movie," Stern ranted. "She should have gotten the Best Actress award because she's never going to have another shot. What movie is she gonna be in?"

And the fact that some of Hollywood's most powerful players (uh, like Oprah Winfrey and Tyler Perry) are among 26-year-old actress' biggest supporters, doesn't mean squat to Stern.

He knocked Winfrey, who praised Sidibe at the Academy Awards Sunday night and said she was sure Sidibe would have a long, fruitful career.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2010/03/10/2010-03-10_howard_stern_slams_gabourey_sidibe_over_weight_says_her_career_is_over__but_shes.html#ixzz0hoFznJ2X

someone needs to remind Howard that beauty's only skin deep.

I happen to think Ms. Sidibe has a beautiful face, attitude and personality.

[Texasgal]

1. He's a digusting

sexist asshole! :puke:

[Captain Hilts]

4. It's okay in this country - and on this board - to be a sexist shit. nt

[Hello_Kitty]

88. And you can listen to a hateful misogynist every morning and still call yourself a liberal

Just look at all the Stern fans we have here.

[Captain Hilts]

2. Agree. Women are supposed to be decorative and the criteria are pretty narrow. nt

[Tommy_Carcetti]

3. Howard who?

Has that guy been in any way relevant since, say, 1995?

[MrSlayer]

5. That's why he's been so successful over the years.

People that hate him can't wait to hear what he'll say next and people that love him can't wait to hear what he'll say next. And sometimes the same people are in both categories.

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[Mari333]

7. whenever you hear someone projecting so much hatred towards another

just remember that is how they actually view themselves. he must be full of self loathing.

[dana_b]

101. so true

it really does show how insecure they are with themselves. Howard - you need help!!

[supernova]

8. I can't stand him

I applaud his recent awareness over free speech issues and the idea that the * admin lied to us about well. everything. But his attitudes about women have always set my teeth on edge.

The only think he likes women for are T&A on his show. Usually blonde and with or with out tops and hot pants. :P

I wish Gabourey Sidibe every success because she's that talented.

[Missy Vixen]

9. He doesn't want to sleep with her, therefore, she's not human

I typically find Stern pretty funny, too, but that comment was uncalled-for.

Gaborey Sidibe's career is going to be just fine, with or without Howard Stern's approval.

[piratefish08]

13. He has definately shifted to the left in his views on social issues.

Howard has become a huge advocate for the gay community and George Takai has become one of my favorite people since becoming a semi-regular on the show.

He still needs to asses his views on women, but for some reason I get the feeling he dotes on his wife.

He's evolving for the better as he ages and mellows.

If you have listened to him in the last 5 years on satellite you know what I mean........

[Hello_Kitty]

19. Whoopie. Wasn't too long ago when he openly mocked gay people.

And he'll never stop the misogyny. That would alienate his fan base.

I don't give a shit how nice he is to his (younger, hotter) second wife either.

[piratefish08]

20. I didn't defend his misogyny and wasn't looking to pick a fight.....

He no longer mocks gay people and is a strong proponent for gay marriage.

I just said he has changed for the better - while much of this country has stood still or even moved backwards..........

[Missy Vixen]

21. His wife is a former model

I love Howard, but please don't paint him as a humanitarian. He has little use for any woman he's not interested in nailing.

I'm glad Howard Stern is a huge advocate for the gay community. It's too bad he's not an advocate of Gaborey Sidibe's right to be who she is.

[seabeyond]

136. why in the world would any self respecting woman listen for 5 yrs of him degrading, demeaning,

humiliating women for amusement of men and women that hate themselves enough to allow it?

really.... how comfortable and enthusied would you be if they put a man on a show regularly, stripped him down and then threw shit on him, and he continued to say... more please

[dionysus]

10. wait a minute.. you expect an ounce of class from that sleazebag?

[Scout]

46. +1000 n/t

[piratefish08]

11. On today's show Howard had the "Tiger Woods' Mistress Beauty Pageant"

$100K in prizes.

3 of Tiger's ex-mistresses competing.

If you thought you had heard the last of the Tiger hype - just wait........

[blueamy66]

29. And it was hysterical.

Sorry, but I like Howard....well, most of Howard....I just turn the radio off if he pisses me off. :-)

[piratefish08]

33. I've been a fan on and off since he was on WBCN back in the day. He can still be a pig and has

always fallen back on fart jokes, but he has evolved over the years.......... Around here, he's just slightly below Hitler and beating Dick Cheney on the dickhead scale.

He's been very vocally anti-Bush, pro-gay, anti-war and an animal advocate for quite a while now.
He has battled the FCC every step of the way for free speech.
He saved the life of a suicide jumper in the nineties.
He stayed on the air during 9/11 and was fucking compelling.
He's given a voice and launched careers for people that would otherwise have be pushed aside and shit upon in our society.

A lot of times he just says stupid, regretful shit. He's human.

[blueamy66]

48. I agree 100%

Some of his stuff is good....some is god awful...he still entertains me.

[Hello_Kitty]

89. Aw gee, he's human. That makes the hateful misogyny okay.

That makes it okay for him to belittle and degrade women and minorities to his enthusiastic, and mostly white and male, audience.

And his "battle" with the FCC was nothing but a self-serving vendetta.

[Blue Owl]

12. As far as I'm concerned

Howard Stern registers near Rush Limbaugh in terms of overall appeal.

[Arkana]

14. Howard Stern's a disgusting human being.

Really, does this surprise ANYONE? He just insults people for the hell of it.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

15. Howard Stern has always been sexist.

This is as shocking as finding out Newt Gingrich is a conservative.

[mitchum]

16. He could have also been commenting on show business's emphasis on appearance...

in what he said.
I think that she turned in a incredible performance. And she appears to be a wonderful young lady.

[sandyj999]

17. If she chooses, she can lose weight but pitiful Howard will always be ugly. Can't fix that.

[seabeyond]

27. AND he is bald. he is wearing a wig. i just learned that and think is is sooooo

fuckin funny

i can not look at the guy now without looking at the wig and laughing on his ass for his vain hypocrisy

[blueamy66]

30. Do you have a link?

Or a pic?

Who told you this?

[seabeyond]

36. on another thread in lounge. seems to be common knowledge.

i dont pay attention to those things. i look in the eyes. i never notice it. but grab a picture of it and look... does look like a wig

[blueamy66]

47. Nah, he has always had

unruly hair....I highly doubt that it's a wig.

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[Hello_Kitty]

18. Howard Stern has always been a misogynistic racist homobigoted POS.

I actually blame him more than Limbaugh for the polarization and coarsening of the culture. Both he and Limbaugh feed red meat to bitter entitled white men every day. But at least with Limbaugh the political agenda is obvious and it's not particularly "cool" to be a fan of his. Stern gives hipster cred to being a hateful bigoted asshole.

[LanternWaste]

74. I wouldn't call Stern worse than Limbaugh...

I wouldn't call Stern worse than Limbaugh, rather I would place them both on the same plane-- in that both validate through the use of hateful language the minimization and objectification of minority demographics; the only difference being one uses the political playing field to hurt people whilst the other uses the cultural playing field to hurt people.

The defenses I hear re: Limbaugh are the same precise defenses I hear re: Stern-- only the names and the targets are different.

[Hello_Kitty]

75. Perfectly put

both validate through the use of hateful language the minimization and objectification of minority demographics; the only difference being one uses the political playing field to hurt people whilst the other uses the cultural playing field to hurt people.

I call Stern worse not because he's more hateful than Limbaugh, but because his effect is more widespread and pervasive. A liberal can enjoy Stern disparaging women and minorities every day with impunity.

[Warren Stupidity]

82. who openly supports gay marriage?

odd kind of homobigoted pos.

He was simply saying what everyone else was unwilling to say: she is morbidly obese.

[Hello_Kitty]

151. How brave of him. He supports gay marriage.

This gives him a free pass to spew vitriol against fat black women.

"There's the most enormous, fat black chick I've ever seen. She is enormous.

Clearly motivated by concern for her "health".

"She's telling an enormous woman the size of a planet that she's going to have a career."

Again, we should be praising Stern for his principled stand against fat black women being allowed to be seen in public for health and fitness.

Warren, if this is about health, why is the vitriol necessary?

[Warren Stupidity]

153. Well no it just means that he supports gay rights

and is not a "homobigoted pos". he might be a piece of shit for other reasons. I think mostly the reaction against Stern comes from people who have never actually listened to his morning radio show.

He stated the obvious: that women is enormously fat. Oh my god.

[Egalitariat]

142. Misogynist yes, but neither racist nor homobigoted in any way.

And I'm a huge fan. His is the best show on either radio or TV.

[Zywiec]

22. That's just his opinion

Only time will tell if Gabourey Sidibe has a future in movies and whether Howard's prediction comes to fruition.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

23. I'm in his demographic and have never understood his appeal.

[dogday]

24. The only thing that man does well is fart!

maybe that's because he is so full of shit. I was glad when his first wife left him and will be glad when the second one comes around, that is if she has any self esteem as a woman.

[Quantess]

25. He's always critiqued women for their appearance.

It's one of his less appealing qualities that is his trademark act.

He has his funny moments, but he has some very unappealing qualities. IMO, his minuses slightly outweigh his plusses.

[seabeyond]

26. howards goal and intent is to humiliate and degrade female. he is doing nothing he does not

do every single day and his male listeners applaud him for

[Octafish]

28. He's an ass.

Sorry. I meant to type: "He's an old, washed-up ass with long hair."

[Catherine Vincent]

155. LOL.

Don't forget ugly.:)

[zappaman]

31. He never said she wasn't pretty

She does have a very pretty smile and seems like a genuinely nice person.
She is also morbidly obese.
And the reality is that there aren't a lot of scripts calling for morbidly obese people.
Talent takes a back seat to looks in Hollywood every time.
Flame away, but that is the truth of how it works whether we like it or not.

[cherokeeprogressive]

34. "Talent takes a back seat to looks in Hollywood every time."

Except this time, right? You know, this time, when the woman in question wins the Oscar? And let's not forget that Oprah Winfrey was herself nominated for the Oscar, when she wasn't so slim as she is now.

Stern is an ass. He's the perfect example of "I got money honey, and forget that you're the mother of my children, but this kinda money is gonna get me a younger model."

I wouldn't piss in his mouth if his teeth were on fire.

[zappaman]

35. She didn't win an Oscar

And she is morbidly obese.

[cherokeeprogressive]

38. Damn, you are right. She didn't.

I didn't see the movie, actually. But now that you mention it, she didn't win. I apologize.

It was the other heavy set black woman who did, so my point is still valid.

[CatWoman]

39. seems to me that attacking her size IS attacking her looks

:shrug:

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[CatWoman]

54. nope, don't think so

(about me being wrong).

I'm not denying that she is heavy. I'm saying being heavy does not make her

1. ugly

2. untalented

3. unemployable.

[zappaman]

55. she's not heavy

she's morbidly obese.
and that is unhealthy.
she needs help not pats on the back about how pretty and talented she is.

[CatWoman]

59. some people just need to be treated as a fellow human being

why not try it some time?

[zappaman]

61. I am

telling her she is morbidly obese and needs help is better than just saying "ahhh you are soo cute!"
Helping a fellow human being is what I like to do.
Why not try it some time?

[Hello_Kitty]

80. The OP is about Howard Stern calling her vile names.

Every, and I mean every, time there is an OP about someone being insulting or cruel to a fat WOMAN the concern trolls come out, with their reminders that being fat is sooooooo unhealthy. So much so that we need to "help" fat women by treating them as less than human.


Meanwhile, Kevin Smith was mostly treated like a hero.

[zappaman]

115. Get off yer high horse

Kevin Smith was not treated like a hero. His fans all piled on him like I've never seen before.
The truth is she is MORBIDLY OBESE.
That is not attractive.
And yes, it is very unhealthy and in Hollywood, morbidly obese actresses do not get as much work as skinny actresses. Unfair? Yes. But, that is how it works.
Given a choice to put Megan Fox(who can't act her way out of a paper bag) or Gabourey Sidibe(who was nominated for an Oscar), to star in a romantic comedy, who do you think they are going to cast?
In a perfect world where gumdrops rain from the sky and world leaders hug it out instead of going to war, Gabourey would be cast.
On this planet? Megan is a shoe-in.

[Missy Vixen]

140. Somehow, I think she'll get by without your "help".

I'd like to tell you a few truths about yourself. Then again, I'm sure you make yourself scarce for that kind of "truth-telling", don't you?

Do you think that Gaborey Sidibe doesn't already know she's fat? I'll bet you think your "concern" would be a real news flash for her, huh?

[Hello_Kitty]

77. She needs you to mind your own fucking business

No one ever nagged, shamed, or insulted an ounce of weight off another human being.

[Shell Beau]

83. She is pretty and talented. Why would someone not compliment her on that?

Oh, the fat must counteract those two things about her. I see. I am sure she is well aware of her weight. I am happy that she has the confidence to show up and be herself at these events in spite of her weight. I don't think she is making kids grow up thinking "ooh, I want to be fat".

[SimonPhoenix]

58. Being heavy makes her

1. ugly.

Yes.

2. untalented.

Doesn't make her untalented.

3. unemployable

Well if she confines herself to Tyler Perry movies glorifying obese black women, then she'll probably still be able to find employment.

[Hello_Kitty]

76. Your concern is duly noted. eom

[Shell Beau]

78. Queen Latifah is looking good.

She isn't fat. At least to me she isn't. She certainly isn't stick thin though.

[Toasterlad]

113. Maybe You Should Give Accepting People For Who They Are a Try?

I'm sure you're only concerned for health reasons, right? Well, thin people can have all kinds of habits that render them just as unhealthy as you imagine overweight people to be. And overweight does not automatically = unhealthy.

Maybe you should stop being so judgmental.

[Midlodemocrat]

32. Been in the utter contempt column for years. He sucks.

[crazyjoe]

37. It's just for show, don't take it personally

[Hello_Kitty]

95. Limbaugh's just a harmless little fluffball too. eom

[Hawaii Hiker]

40. One thing i've always liked about Howard Stern is that

he can goof & make fun of himself....He constantly pokes fun at his looks, & often says (paraphrasing) "I've been going to a psychiatrist 3-4 days a week for 2 decades now & I'm still a mess", etc..

Most celebrities are wound too tight, & could never poke fun at themselves, whereas Howard is a master of self-depreceration..

BTW, todays show, the Tiger Woods Mistress Beauty Pageant was very good...

Lastly, even if you don't like Howard, he is a social liberal whose voted for the Democrat in every election since 1992....

Also, and the haters aren't going to like this, but he is a great interviewer...Sure he might get carried away w/the sex questions, but the guy can interview, doesn't kiss ass & will ask tough questions....

[Imajika]

41. Stern is vile...

I simply will never, ever understand why anyone likes to listen to these Shock Jocks.

They say outrageous things for ratings. That's it. They offend, degrade, insult and generally act like assholes for money. I just don't see what people find amusing about it.

[ibegurpard]

42. God, he's still around?

I thought she was amazing...disappeared into the character...completely different from the actress I've seen in interviews.

[TK421]

43. Stern, like SNL stopped being funny a long, LONG time ago

but he still has his loyal fan base....I can't even begin to describe what these people look like, or smell like

but, like a day-old fart, they're still around.... somewhere

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[lovelyrita]

62. Do you listen to the show? I do and I am a non-smelly woman.

It's the only time that I turn off political talk radio.

I heard Howard make these comments on his show. It is being taken a little out of context. Yes, it is mean to say someone is fat, even if it is true but he has a valid point about her likelihood of being in other movies. Right or wrong, and he certainly was not saying that it was right, it is nearly impossible to have a career in movies or tv and be an overweight woman. That was the point he was making.

[Hello_Kitty]

64. Oh well, shucky wuckies, he's just trying to HELP.

What a mensch.

:puke:

[blueamy66]

67. Do you have any stats to back up your

ridiculous statement?

Or are you just projecting?

[Shell Beau]

45. He should be the first to know that beauty is only skin deep because

he is so damn ugly.

[athenasatanjesus]

49. wtf he looks great

when you compare his outer looks to his inner beauty that is.

[Shell Beau]

51. True. His outside is fugly, but his inside seems to be rotten.

[SimonPhoenix]

53. He's right-she's hideous

She needs to lose about 200 pounds.

[CatWoman]

56. and i'll just bet your'e dripping in gorgeousness, huh?

glad I don't live in a glass house.

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[Swamp Rat]

65. Bye bye!

:hi:

[seabeyond]

69. he... was an obvious. little ****, woman hater. glad to see

him go away so quickly

[Warren Stupidity]

85. Hollywood: film careers are about appearances.

In case you hadn't noticed, the superficial is everything in the film industry.

[Hello_Kitty]

90. For women it's everything. Plenty of fat ugly men are successful in show business.

Very few women who aren't conventionally attractive.

[Warren Stupidity]

93. very few men either, although more men than women.

there are not a lot of morbidly obese actors of any gender.

[dana_b]

103. not "everything"

but certainly a big deal in Hollywood.

Just thinking from the top of my head some of my favorite actresses aren't considered all that gorgeous but I distinctly remember their performances.
Like:
Marcia Gay Harden
Jessica Tandy
Frances McDormand
Sissy Spacek
Kathy Bates
Helen Mirren
Barbara Streisand

[lonestarnot]

60. Howie a dick who thinks with it.

[seabeyond]

63. he overcompensates. he probably hasnt been able to get it up and "think" in years

just a guess

wouldnt want to start any net rumors

[blueamy66]

68. Have you seen his wife?

nt

[seabeyond]

70. tells me nothing..... i know lots of not gonna get it up old men

with beauties on their arm... and those beauties dont amount to much and the old guys still doesnt get it up.

not to mention the whole look thing of the woman is the mans worth, does nothing for me either.

[blueamy66]

72. Okay, whatever.

She's more than just a beauty...but, we'll agree to disagree on this one...

[Hello_Kitty]

91. Yeah, it's not like she's an "enormous black chick the size of a planet"

Because then she'd be an object of scorn unworthy of the honor of being wife to the mighty Howard Stern.

[seabeyond]

120. wink, lol. nt

[blueamy66]

144. There ya go...

now you're learnin'

[Hello_Kitty]

147. You just keep telling yourself that it's those other women Howard degrades, not you.

You know, those dumb bitches who deserve to be humiliated for the entertainment of Stern's audience. Not you. You're different. You're not like other women. You're special.

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[Kitty Herder]

66. It's Howard Stern.

What the fuck do you expect? He's a disgusting pile of fecal matter who has built a career based on hurting others.

[JohnnyBoots]

71. She is morbidly obese and should lose weight for health alone. If she dropped 100+ lbs. and

landed a decent role it could be a guaranteed Oscar. Hollywood likes that, when people change shape for a role.

Also, if she adpoted a healthier lifestyle it would serve as a good example to young people who are obese that they can get healthy too.

[JitterbugPerfume]

73. She is beautiful

She needs to drop some weight for her healths sake(and so do I)

[CatWoman]

79. Hi JBP!!

:hi:

:loveya:

[JitterbugPerfume]

84. Hi CatWoman!

:hi:


Tansy , Lilith , Mandu and I adore you:loveya:

[edbermac]

81. He's mocked Limbaugh's weight also (as a lot of DU'ers have)

Take it with a grain of salt. It's just Stern being Stern.

[Hello_Kitty]

87. Oh well gee gosh darn.

It's just Stern being Stern. :eyes:

Let me guess, you are a white male.

[edbermac]

92. Why do you ask? Do you have something against white males?

And is his radio partner for nearly 30 years Robin Quivers a white male?

[Hello_Kitty]

94. Right. Disliking Stern because he's a misogynistic asshole bully

Means I have a grudge against white males.

The reason I asked if you are white and male is because that is Stern's target demo and most of his audience. Like just about every other entertainer who is touted as having "something to offend everyone", "everyone" means "everyone but the white males who are his target audience".

[edbermac]

109. I first heard Stern about 15 years ago.

I was doing temp work and some WOMEN were listening to him on THEIR radio and thought he was hysterically funny. Sometimes he was funny, sometimes just obnoxious. And I haven't heard him since he switched to Sirius. I liked him but not enough to pay to listen to him.

And yes I am a WM, but I'm also a 'target audience member' of Hannity/Beck/Limbaugh etc and they're missing me by a million miles.

[Hello_Kitty]

112. The fact that he has female fans does not make him less misogynistic

Most women internalize misogyny to at least some extent. It's nearly impossible not to. The women who like Stern may have convinced themselves that he's talking about other women, not them.

[blueamy66]

145. I'm white and female

and I enjoy listening to him.

Is that okay with you?

[zappaman]

146. not according to the righteous cat lovers who post here

according to them, you are full of hate, a bigot and a misogynist.

[Hello_Kitty]

86. Uh, everyone's "concern" about Sidibe's "health" is duly noted.

The OP is about Howard Stern hurling ugly misogynistic and racist invective at the young women. Her being fat gives him cover to do so, just as it does everyone who bashes fat women while couching their abuse in terms of "concern for her health". If you replied on this thread just to remind everyone that it's sooooooo unhealthy to be fat then I'm just going to go ahead and assume you are okay with Stern's comments.

To answer the OP's question, no, he would not feel the same way if she were male, nor would many of these DU commenters. It's not that fat men aren't subjected to plenty of abuse, particularly from asshole bullies like Howard Stern, but there's a particularly nasty kind of disdain shown toward fat women. To be fat as a woman is to fail in your duty to be a decorative object. To be very dark skinned is to be out of compliance with Western appearance norms too. That's why Stern is so vicious to Sidibe. How DARE she be a fat black woman and be able to be seen in public!

[zappaman]

117. Kevin Smith was raked over the coals

and you have no idea what you are talking about.

[Missy Vixen]

141. I beg to differ

Kevin Smith received lots of positive comments about his battle with SWA. I know. I read them.

You might want to try another example.

[zappaman]

143. really?

go to places like AINT IT COOL NEWS or VIEW ASKEW where his fan base actually resides.
or do you just come here to post your sanctimonious views, honey?

[Missy Vixen]

150. I've been here since 2001

Furthermore, if you think the commenters at Ain't It Cool News are an accurate barometer of anything at all, I wonder about you.

Have a nice evening, cupcake.

:eyes:

[3324SS]

96. Did you actually LISTEN to His Show?

when his comments were made or do you prefer to make attacks on him based upon second hand information?

[Hello_Kitty]

97. I was forced to listen to Stern in my workplace every day for years

He's a misogynist and a bully and a truly ugly person, inside and out.

Like I said upthread, he's had a more corrosive effect on the American discourse than Limbaugh. He makes it cool to dehumanize women and anyone perceived to be weaker or different.

And no, having a black female sidekick doesn't mitigate it one goddamn bit.

[3324SS]

98. Did they hold a gun to your head to make you listen?

That is about the only way one can be forced.

If you don't like Howard fine don't listen but Millions do and it is COMEDY nothing more.

If you claim you were forced to listen at work then you need to contact a lawyer, you just many have a case.

[Hello_Kitty]

99. My manager was a fan.

And Stern is "comedy" like Limbaugh is "just a harmless little fluffball" as he describes himself.

Boy, criticism of your hero sure hurts your widdle fee fees, doesn't it?

[3324SS]

100. Nope it does not

actually it does not bother me at all that you don't like him.

to each his own.

I just think you are dead wrong on your observations.

I don't take anything personal on the internet, you don't know me and I don't know you.

You chose to put up with a situation you did not like, it was not Howard Sterns fault nor was it mine, it was yours.

Like I said no body forced you, you chose to stay.

If you were physically forced to stay and listen or were in a form of indentured servitude then you make a point about being forced. By your own admission you were not physically forced but you chose to stay anyway.

[Hello_Kitty]

104. Oh yeah, because we live in such a worker-friendly country.

And bringing lawsuits against your employer is just so easy-breezy. Seriously, one day when you're no longer in college and being supported by your parents you will see just how much shit people put up with on their jobs and the supposed recourse we have is a joke. I mean, being a white dude it won't be quite as bad for you, but you'll see.

And look, I get it. Stern is your hero. He makes it okay for you to consider other types of people to be less than you. He lets you think of women as walking subhuman fuckholes, even if you can't really treat them that way in public. You even get to still feel like a hip liberal while you're doing it because Stern likes gay people now and he bravely fought the FCC.

[3324SS]

107. Like I said you don't know anything about me at all

I have supported myself since I was 16 I am almost 50 now.

You need to learn to accept responsibility for your actions.

Bottom line YOU and YOU alone chose to stay and listen.

Deal with it.

If lashing out at me makes you feel good, go for it!

This is how I deal with bad situations, I had a boss who was a Reich Wing Idiot spewing Limbaugh garbage 24/7, I gave him the finger and LEFT, and had a new job in 48 hours.

[Hello_Kitty]

108. Well goody for you.

I love how you focus on my working decision and ignore Stern's misogyny. Can't defend it, can ya?

[3324SS]

111. OK Fine You Win!

Happy Now?

[CatWoman]

110. so

you playing the "taken out of context card" on me?

Your hero is a fucking idiot.

deal with it.

[LostInAnomie]

102. Sad thing is, he's right.

I know people like to give the token answer that she's a beautiful woman and she's a talented actress, but that doesn't get you anywhere if writers don't create roles that fit a morbidly obese, black woman.

Just think about the movies that are moderately successful each year. How many of roles can you think of that were written for a obese, black woman that weren't comedies about an actor in a fat suit laughing at obese people?

You can be angry at Stern all you want for pointing it out, but it's the truth.

[Hello_Kitty]

105. What a mensch that Stern is. eom

[Hello_Kitty]

106. Wait, so because there are few roles about obese black women

That means that there shouldn't be roles written for obese black women.

I mean, sheesh, who do they think they are? White men or something?

[Toasterlad]

114. Are You Going to Write One?

[Hello_Kitty]

116. Maybe.

Or maybe I should write another desperately needed role for a white male protagonist.

[Toasterlad]

118. If You Feel There's a Dearth Of Roles For Morbidly Obese Black Women, Write One.

Whining about how no one else is writing one will not land Precious another role.

[Hello_Kitty]

119. Well, I'm not a scriptwriter for one thing.

For another, I was responding to someone who was acting as if the dearth of roles for fat black women was just the natural order of things.

[zappaman]

121. It is the natural order of things.

In Hollywood, it certainly is.
and as an immense, morbidly obese PERSON, she is going to have problems.

[Hello_Kitty]

123. And yet she is getting roles as we speak.

Which people on this thread seem to find hard to acknowledge. Because there aren't roles for obese black women. Or something.

Y'all are all so concerned for Gabi. It's touching, really.

[zappaman]

124. I'm not concerned

Frankly, I don't know her and couldn't care less.
But, if someone did care about her, it would be better if they told her how MORBIDLY OBESE she is instead of buying her XXXL Hello Kitty PJs and telling her she has pretty eyes.
I won't hold my breath waiting for her starring role in a romantic comedy.

[Hello_Kitty]

128. Gee, it's amazing how no one mentions that she's MORBIDLY OBESE.

The way you just did. And Howard Stern did. And thousands upon thousands of concern trolls on the internet and IRL.

[zappaman]

129. She is

Should we lie and say she looks great?
She doesn't. She looks MORBIDLY OBESE.

[Hello_Kitty]

132. Why don't you put a pic of yourself up so I can evaluate you? eom

[Toasterlad]

122. It IS the Natural Order Of Things In Hollywood.

Precious destroyed expectations and did remarkably well, but mostly because of the Oscar nomination (and the fact that Oprah Winfrey told her slavish drones to go see it). If you're expecting to see a bunch of movies in a similar vein coming in the future, you're going to be disappointed.

The film industry is a business like any other, and, like any other business, it exists to make money. There is no reason to believe that duplicating Precious would be financially rewarding, and no reason to believe that writing a different kind of role for an obese black woman who isn't a painful stereotype played for cheap laughs would be any more successful.

Gabourey is doomed to a career of sassy supporting roles, if she manages to have a career at all. That's just the way of things.

[Hello_Kitty]

125. So it's the invisible hand of the free market that causes Hollywood to be dominated by white men

Who ascended to the top production positions by dint of their innate superiority. Oh, and the reason that roles for white men so predominate is that white men are inherently more interesting than everyone else.

[zappaman]

126. It is dictated by money

People don't pay to see morbidly obese actors or actresses.
They would rather pay to see good-looking folks, even if their acting is terrible.
Hence, the "acting" careers of Ben Affleck and Megan Fox, just to name two...

[Toasterlad]

127. You Can Rant At White Men All the Live Long Day

That still won't make people go watch something they don't want to watch.

[Hello_Kitty]

130. No one's telling you what to watch.

I'm just telling you that hateful bigoted misogyny is hateful bigoted misogyny no matter how much concern trolling you do to disguise it.

For people who claim not to care about Gabi Sibide, y'all sure have a lot to say about her.

[zappaman]

133. anger issues?

I didn't start this topic.
why don't you change the way Hollywood works?
And I saw nothing in that Stern's statement that was misogynistic, bigoted, or hateful.
She is immense and will have trouble getting roles in Hollywood.

[Hello_Kitty]

135. Klansmen don't think they're bigots either. eom

[zappaman]

137. LOL

Wow, that's a stretch!!!
You gonna compare him to Hitler next?
ROTFLMAO!!!!

[Name removed]

138. Deleted message

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[Toasterlad]

139. Um...Excuse Me. When Did I Claim To Care About Her?

I thought she did a fine job in a good film. Beyond that, I don't care about her any more than I do about any other Hollywood personality. I wish her well, but really, what happens to her career doesn't concern me in the slightest.

And explaining the reality of the movie business to you is not attacking her. Your efforts to label the movie industry racist because people won't flock to see movies starring obese women make you look pretty silly.

[omega minimo]

131. someone needs to remind Howard

what he looks like. Oh but it's okay for a man to have a fright face like that hanging off of his turkey neck. long as ya gotta dick, it's all right.
:sarcasm:

[zappaman]

134. actually he knows

I don't hear him much these days, but my wife listens everyday and he is CONSTANTLY putting down his looks.
And the actress is morbidly obese and will have trouble finding jobs in Hollywood.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

149. Stern's face looks like a bucket of smashed assholes. Who is he to talk?

[liquid diamond]

152. Howard Stern is an asshole.

What else is new? Why people worship this dick is beyond me.

[Joe the Revelator]

154. The truth hurts

Unless she loses weight (which is something we all should want for her, if not she will be dead within 10 years) she will be nothing more then a novelty actress who will not get another leading role.

[goclark]

156. Howard is a Finished Fool nt