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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 07:46 PM
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Seeing-eye dog refused entry to restaurant
This actually turned out pretty well.



The manager of a Subway restaurant has apologized to a visually impaired Ottawa man who was refused service at the restaurant because he wasn't allowed to bring his seeing-eye dog inside, and advocacy groups for the blind say this happens far too often.

Joel Dazé is almost blind, and doesn't go anywhere without his service dog. He said Tuesday that has never been a problem until last week.



Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/ottawa/story/2010/03/10/subway-blindman.html#ixzz0hpB6EmAt
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 07:54 PM
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1. This is a common problem with businesses employing teens
in the US as they don't know anything about ADA....Used to be a subject for social studies, but I guess those are no longer topics allowed now that US schools are supposed to teach the glory of Ronald Reagan and the conservative revolution. :eyes:


I'm glad your story turned out well. I have tried to educate when I've seen misunderstandings develop...
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 09:31 PM
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2. Being as this was in Canada
I doubt the worker who turned the dog away was blinded by the love of the Gipper.

But, your point about the education of workers is well taken.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 10:25 PM
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9. That is why I prefaced that his is a problem in the US as well...
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 09:49 PM
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3. Well, it's not on the FCAT, so it doesn't get taught. nt
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 09:56 PM
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4. The employee was a recent immigrant to Canada
He didn't know the laws. The manager understood the situation has since set his employee straight.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 10:05 PM
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5. I heard the story on the T\/ news. They said that it is often a recent immigrants
who make the mistake with seeing eye dogs because different cultures place animals in differing status.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 10:07 PM
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6. Hey, 'scuse me. I teach social studies.
Edited on Wed Mar-10-10 10:13 PM by MadHound
I've also worked food service as well. It is, by law, the responsibility of restaurant to provide food training for its workers, which also includes the aspects of ADA that deals with service animals.

As far as Ronald Reagan, most of the social studies teachers deal with him in a fairly superficial way. After all, he is of fairly recent vintage and historians don't start dealing with an event until its somewhere around twenty-thirty years old. About the only mention you see of him in the curriculum is in connection with the fall of the Berlin Wall and the Soviet Union, but even then, that's fairly rare. Given the amount of material that needs to be covered and the short amount of time that we have, in depth detailed history generally stops at the Vietnam war these days.

Oh, and we teachers are mostly a fairly liberal bunch, after all, up until Obama started throwing education under the bus, teachers were considered part of the backbone of the Democratic party. So I really doubt that you would have many teachers at all singing the praises of Reagan like you imply. So please stop slamming teachers with a broad brush attacks like that, we're having enough rough sledding thanks to the Obama education, we don't need shit from the likes of you.

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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 10:24 PM
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8. Whoah.. BACK OFF... I am not disparaging teachers...
FIrst, it is well established that businesses have that responsibility. Second it is well known that small businesses with large youth hires and turnovers rarely do. Third, it has been covered extensively that the Texas Education Board (whose decisions influence textbooks used throughout the country) have been trying to de-emphasize aspects of history and social studies that we take for granted as being important, such as VIetnam, WWI and II, etc., and to replace pages of that coverage with discussion of Phyllis Schafly, Newt Gingrich's Contract on America and the RETHUG revolution.

MadHOund we have both been around DU a long time and I recall interacting frequently. I'm saddened that you jumped to the very wrong conclusion with my post. I generally try to give benefit of the doubt and ask some questions of posters whose screen names I recognize, knowing how easy it is to misinterpret the occasional post. So, kindly take a breath. I will ignore your less than civil comment, realizing that YES, you teachers DO have it very rough right now. I'm sorry you are so defensive. I suppose it is understandable, but I am not your enemy.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 10:30 PM
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10. Sorry, my bad
Your comment about schools supposed to teach about the glory of Reagan struck a nerve.

As far what the Texas school board decides, like I posted about in another thread earlier about the book decisions, they can ship us the books, it doesn't mean we have to use them, or teach out of them.;)

The education wars around here have made me a bit jumpy, Peace:hi:
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 10:37 PM
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11. Back at ya...
As I said, I can appreciate how teachers must be feeling--I have quite a few among my friends and the budget cuts and all the rest of the stresses have been devastating. Our youth certainly need the best teachers we can give them--those like you that fight back to ensure they get the education (and not the propaganda) that they deserve. A cyber :toast: to you and all your colleagues.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 10:15 PM
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7. In NOLA new immigrant Muslim cabdrivers started refusing to drive blind with dogs
I recall several cases in NOLA a few years ago when Muslim cabdrivers -who owned their own cabs- refused to take blind people with dogs where they needed to go. Something about dogs being 'haram.'

I think that got stopped. I sure hope so. Dogs are cleaner than a lot of humans, and seeing eye dogs are smarter, too. ;)
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