North Korean Anti American Propaganda bears a remarkable similarity to GOP talking points. (pic heav

[TheBigotBasher]

http://theoriens.com/anti-american-propaganda-from-north-korea/

Not that the Country the GOP wants is that dissimilar to North Korea.

[Confusious]

1. In world war 2, hundredsof thousands of germans surrendered

To US forces. Why?

because they knew they would not be mistreated.

If we had the cheney standards then, things would have gone on longer and cost more lives.

[happyslug]

3. Yes, those Nazi Butchers did NOT want to surrender to the Russians

Yes, Stalin was NOT a nice person but what the Nazis did in Russia during and after their invasion of Russia in 1941 was simply barbaric. Thus by 1945 the last thing a German wanted to do was surrender to the Russians for they knew the Russians wanted REVENGE for what the Nazis had done since June 1941. For this reason the Germans surrendered in mass to the US Army while still fighting the Red Army, till they were told they had to Surrender or be viewed by the US Army as outlaws when they could have surrendered to the Russians first.

[Mudoria]

5. True but really no one would have wanted to surrender to the Russians

The Poles did nothing to the Russians and that didn't stop them from committing atrocities on Poland when Ol' Joe and Adolf were allies for a bit.

[happyslug]

7. The Killing of the Polish Officers were considered a mistake by the NKVD, but Stalin ordered it

The NKVD did not want to shoot the Polish Officers and called it one of their biggest mistakes, but Stalin wanted it done so it was done. On the other hand the enlisted ranks were not harmed. Most ended up serving in Russian Officered Polish Units but a handful were turned over to the West for use (Stalin refused to tell the US and Britain why he did NOT turn over the Officers, but he did turn over the Enlisted ranks until the questions from the Polish Government in Exile about the Officers became to much for Stalin so in retaliation he stopped the transfer of the enlistees and formed them into unit under Russian Command).

German Propaganda emphasized any and all of the problems the Red army did in Poland (And they were many, the above is the best known) but Stalin greatest tactic was to wait for the Poles to revolt and leave the Germans suppress the rebellion, thus the revolt was suppressed by the time the Russia Troops arrived. Stalin always claimed he had supply problems during the suppression of the revolt (The 1944 Warsaw Revolt was the best example) but he did have the Russian Air Force drop off ammunition to the Poles in the Revolt (Through it should be noted he dropped off Russian ammunition, while the Poles were using German Weapons, the Poles before WWII had been using the same infantry weapons as the German, the K98 Mauser for example, and the Model 1942 German Machine Gun is believed to be derived from a Polish design that was to go into production in 1940 but Poland fell to Hitler before production could start, thus sending in Russian Ammunition was a waste of effort but good theater),

Anyway, while Poland was handled roughly by the Red Army in 1944-1945 as it fell to the Red Army, but the worse years for Poland was 1940-1944 when Germany ruled Poland NOT 1944-1945 when the Red Army was on control (And much of the area Stalin took in 1939 had a large Ukrainian population and the Ukrainian popular Army re-moved any Poles from most of that part of Poland while they were working with the Germans against the Red Army). The Russians then removed most of the Germans from Silesia and East Prussia as the Russian Army march through and turned these areas over to the Poles (Except Kaliningrad formerly Königsberg, which and is part of the Russian Federal Republic, a Little niche on the Baltic between Poland the Lithuania). Poles were moved into these new areas after the Germans left (Either with the retreating Nazi Armies OR by pressure from Red Army Units.

I do NOT want to say that the Poles were treated kindly by the Red Army, the Army was to large, seeking revenge AND needing food supplies to be nice, but any harm tended to be war related NOT a deliberate attack on the Poles themselves.

[chrisa]

2. Notice that the only one sabre-rattling is North Korea.

Nobody would care about them otherwise. The troll that runs their country pops his head out every once in a while and does something drastic in order to get more food to keep his failed country from starving. Then, he gets scared by the light, and hides back under his drawbridge.

[old mark]

4. I saw a program on the "Dear Leader" of the PRNK yesterday, and it

occurred to me that the way he runs HIS country is very similar to the way a RW republican president would want to run OUR country. No contact with reality, cut off from any opposing points of view, totally bullshit propaganda and huge military commitment at the expense of the people.
There is even a mystical tale told of Mr. Kim's birth ( a double rainbow, etc)....
Mr. Kim also has real and very evil death camps. Camps were established in the US under Reagan, closed under Clinton, re-established under Bush II. Under a Palin or similar regime, we'd all be in one of them, I have little doubt.

mark

[Lagomorph]

6. I disagree...

...they've seemed to find a way around that by turning entire cities into homeless camps.