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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 01:45 PM
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Not Passing The Public Option Is Not The End Of Democrats
Edited on Fri Mar-12-10 01:45 PM by berni_mccoy
The MSM is playing this up big time, but it's basically more hyped up nonsense.

Is the failure to pass a PO a huge disappointement? Yes.

Will there be mass numbers of House Democrats losing their seat for it? No. And there are several reasons.

First off, the Congressmen of the House did pass a public option. Only a small number of Democrats voted against it, and yes, they are at risk of losing their seats for it. But are you really going to vote against your House Rep because the Senate didn't have the votes? Right, I thought so.

Secondly, this election isn't going to be a referrendum on Health Care Reform. It's going to be a referrendum on the economy. If the economy does not markedly improve and if unemployment remains high, then that is a more likely reason that Democrats will lose seats. This is completely what Bunnings filibuster of the jobs bill was all about. Delaying the jobs bill even a week or two could have a significant impact on the election.

Thirdly, only twice in the history of American politics did a new President's party not lose seats to the other party. Democrats are going to lose seats. Expect it. But it will have very little to do with not passing a Public Option.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 01:47 PM
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1. So what you are saying is that the loss of the PO will be a huge disappointment
Edited on Fri Mar-12-10 01:48 PM by anonymous171
but will somehow not have any effect on the election. Am I right?
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 01:48 PM
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2. Did your Democratic reps vote for the PO? If they did, are you going to sit out
so they get replaced with Republicans?
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 01:53 PM
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3. At least Republicans come at you face forward with knife in hand.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 01:55 PM
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4. It is for me
I'm tired of being toyed with by these assholes who only care about insurance company profits. Fuck them all.

dg
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 01:56 PM
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5. Maybe not failing to pass a public option.
But what about passing a POS excuse for HCR without a public option which actually creates a burden?

That COMPOUNDS the suffering from the economy.

What a piling on of political woes.
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 02:05 PM
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6. Unless they strip the mandate out also, I think it is.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 02:33 PM
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12. You're in CA. Most likely, your rep voted for the Public Option. Answer these 2 questions then:
If your rep is a Democrat who voted for the PO, are you sitting out, so a Republican can win their seat? Are you going to vote against them?

If not, then I'm right.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 02:46 PM
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18. You are aware that I'm not the only voter in California, correct?
Edited on Fri Mar-12-10 02:47 PM by Marr
What a bizarre statement. I don't even know how to respond. I'll just leave it at, "no it would not mean that you're right". How about that?
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 02:16 PM
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9. Though it should be. nt.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 02:29 PM
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10. The Senate Bill that everyone hated is now wonderful
Alright...added to my talking points list
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 02:32 PM
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11. As if the mandates to buy crappy product with money no one
has is not going to be part of any 'referrendum' on the economy. What an illogical thought. An expense commanded by law, in a poor economy, will have no effect on voters. Right. Gotcha. The economy, and people's actual expenses are not tied together at all. I see.
I guess this is a buffet, because it seems to be all self service.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 02:34 PM
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13. Yet. But, unlike real HCR, they're working on it.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 02:37 PM
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15. What's yer point?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 03:24 PM
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23. Ran out of things to yell about Dennis K. nt.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 02:38 PM
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16. Does the term mass exodus from D.C.
have any meaning for you? The biggest mistake the democratic party could have made.
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 02:44 PM
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17. End of the GOP....they were the obstructionists....nt
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 02:48 PM
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19. My worthless representative voted against PO, I will not
vote for him again. Not solely on that vote, but in part.

I will never vote for a repuke as long as I live. But, I will no longer vote for any conservatives, regardless of party label.
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pundaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 02:53 PM
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20. It's an education process. Congress and regulators have forgotten who they serve, and the
importance of the Constitution and government by law. There is an institutional problem that has become obvious to many of us. The Good tolerate and appease the Bad. They must all go.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 03:18 PM
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21. Says you.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 03:21 PM
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22. .
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