3 things and I'm going to have a beer

[AllentownJake]

1) The economy is going nowhere. No fucking where. Do you want to know why? What were the causes of this crisis? A bad banking system and a jump in the price of gasoline.

Has the banking system been fixed? What is the price of gasoline? What happens to the price of gasoline every time there is improvement in the economy? Give you a hint, the price goes up and the banking system is insolvent with overvalued assets sitting on their books at historical values.

Common sense, have we fixed the problem that caused us to be where we are at? No, therefore it must be assumed we aren't going anywhere.

On a side note, I'll give you a hint on why gas cost so much. Part of it is peak oil. The other part is back in the days we had No Fly Zones in Iraq, Saddam Hussein was cheating OPEC. That is right, he was cheating the OPEC rules to get himself more money. When we invaded Iraq, we took care of that little problem for OPEC. Don't know if we did it intentionally or not because we are stupid as a country sometime, and George was one of our more stupid occupiers of that office. Either way, OPEC is now working again as a team, probably in reaction to us invading Iraq. They can starve us to death. So I do not blame equation item number 2 on the President, but he sure as hell could send a message by enforcing the known regulations on a few bad guys from AIG or Lehman or Ernst & Young to do equation item #1 in this economic mess.


2) The US congress is incapable of tying their own fucking shoes right now. They couldn't pass a bill with 12 months and super majorities in one party. Why are they inept, because they are fucking greedy and out of touch to what is going on outside of Washinton D.C. There are a few who know what is going on, but the majority of them are greedy idiots, and it isn't a partisan thing.


3) The Healthcare reform bill makes no frakking sense. You have told me for years that the problem is private insurers doing all kinds of shenanigans is the cause for the health care problem in this country, and your answer to this problem is to mandate everyone to buy private insurance? Are you kidding me. Spare me the regulation talk, the government can't even enforce the existing regulations on thieving bankers because the regulators are inept, corrupt, or a little of both and people hate the banks with a burning passion.

[JVS]

1. Isn't it a bit early to have a beer?

[Catshrink]

3. Nope.

[Tejas]

4. Isn't it a bit early for the Mother Superior bit?

At least let the man knock a few back before you pounce!

:rofl:

[Craftsman]

10. No!!!

Like we said in college, "Beer it isn't just for breakfast anymore."

[neverforget]

19. It's12 o'clock somewhere

[TexasObserver]

27. That makes me think of this song by Styx.

The lyrics are a reminder that Jake, like many, is well qualified for work he cannot get, and the burden of that is a heavy one for anyone. We need more jobs, and we need them now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNYKxiRJ2LA

[Tejas]

2. Bush's fault - nt

:rofl:

[Mari333]

5. when Im blue I just do this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYU7oG2V7uc

it works I swear to god. makes my dogs bark.

[JVS]

8. Wow. They must have had great drugs there!

[dixiegrrrrl]

6. Before you pop a top, lemme disagree on one minor point.

where you said Congress is inept
"because they are fucking greedy and out of touch to what is going on outside of Washinton D.C."

Greedy I can agree with.
Have you noticed that they are plenty "ept" when it comes to moving legislation which benefits
the real owners of this country?
Time after time.

they know what's going on. They just don't give a fuck unless it benefits them.
All you have to is buy off the key leaders of Congress, who will control the dimmer bulbs,
let the few good guys yell all they want, the important legislation always has enough votes.

[AllentownJake]

9. Good point the assholes can move pretty quick when a bank says jump nt.

[happy_liberal]

41. yes they just want us to think they are inept

all part of the dog and pony show.

[havocmom]

7. AJ, your posts get better by the day. Nailed it big time.

We should take a look at your blood and see if a wisdom vaccine might be developed from the sample.
:thumbsup:

[NJmaverick]

11. !

:spray:

:rofl:

[AllentownJake]

12. Refute or leave nt

[Name removed]

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[KittyWampus]

23. style? Posting on a website that trashes DU and its Administrators & then posting endlessly

here is FINE style.

:puke:

[AllentownJake]

24. Now see that is a personal attack

Which I could care less about, I use my moniker in multiple sites I post at.

If the administrators of the site, have a problem with me being on that site, they are free to do what they wish. They own this site.

Now back to the OP.

Do you have anything to add, or do I need to swear under oath I'm not a member of any groups you don't like.

[havocmom]

28. Is lockstep is healthy? Are Thought Police high style?

Oh, good thing you took that ipecac, seems you may have inadvertently swallowed some poisonous venom.

Edited cuz I was laughing so damned hard I blew the subject line

[tekisui]

15. What would you expect from someone with such disdain for liberals?

"You know there is a reason that the liberals only make up 20% of the population while conservatives make up twice that at 40%. Liberals have a bad habit of being self destructive. I suspect a major reason for this is that they are younger and lack the wisdom that comes with life experience. " NJMaverick

[havocmom]

18. Yep, that says is all

and says how wrong he is


havocmom is a raving liberal from way back and is not quite as old as dirt, but we went to school together.

[laughingliberal]

34. "not quite as old as dirt, but we went to school together." ROFL

My last birthday, I got a card that read:

"I was channeling the spirit of a 3000 year old warrior the other day. He says he remembers you from high school."

My husband and I were doing a job recently where the customer wanted the carvings in their home gilded to look like the ornamentation on the walls of a tomb in Uzbekistan that dates from 230 BC. As he was describing it to a fellow tradesman, the other tradesman turned to him and said, "I think I remember you telling me about that tomb. Didn't you do the original leafing on that one?"

(brief side trip for comedy)

[AllentownJake]

20. I'd have no problem

if the character could articulate things intelligently. There are posters that do a better job at throwing up talking points, that I have a slight respect for.

[muffin1]

32. This place is getting crazier by the day.

Oh, and btw...


:applause: :applause: :applause:

[Name removed]

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[tkmorris]

21. Argument by Emoticon

Not particularly effective I must say.

[Raineyb]

46. Well it's more intelligent sounding than his usual typed diarrhea

I will admit that that's not saying much.

[pecwae]

51. Just as effective

as the C&P warriors and just as convincing.

[Name removed]

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[blindpig]

13. Well Jake,

I'll agree with you on 1 & 3, but disagree with #2. Those clowns are doing what they are paid to do, and it has little to do with their congressional salaries.

Have a Horlacher's for me.

[AllentownJake]

17. Yes, I made the mistake of giving them the benefit of the doubt

I should have known better...it was a glitch in my logic. They are quite effective in passing things that take away rights and give money to banks.

[NightWatcher]

16. dont forget jobs, and the bigger picture, the Walmarting of America

If we all had jobs, we'd be paying taxes, buying cars, buying houses, and putting some savings away in the BANK.

But no, we have worked this country like a big fucking Walmart and now we are realizing that we are stuck with a piece of cheap plastic shit. Can we do it cheaper? Screw quality, do it cheaper. Lay off half the office and make the other half work harder, else they'll get fired. Insurance, we cant afford that anymore. Spend money on infrastructure, fuck that, when it breaks we'll move on to the next city, town, state, country (Look out India and China).

Capitalism is a cancer and we are approaching the terminal stage.

If we would stop thinking about the CEO's and shareholders and start thinking about the people.... oh whatever, it's not going to happen until we storm the gates of the rich and that wont happen as long as we've got cable tv, internet, walmart cheap plastic shit, and a .99 cent value meal that we can gourge our stupid fat faces on.

...that beer is looking pretty good, and his eight remaining friends in the case are in trouble too.

[laughingliberal]

35. "Capitalism is a cancer and we are approaching the terminal stage."

Absolutely!

[northernlights]

25. 3rd reason why price of gas will be rising

China.

Their demand increased by 28% last year. Very soon, they will surpass US as #1 consumer of oil.

[AllentownJake]

26. They'll float the Yuan when gas gets to a certain price

Simple reason, it will be a strong currency and they can buy gas with it cheaply than.

After of course ours deteriorates from all the nonsense we are doing right now.

They'll deplete their worthless dollar reserves for it till than, and keep gas high on us.

[havocmom]

29. Amazing, isn't it, how many more cars the Chinese are buying?

Wow, having an expanding middle class seems to be good for the whole economy. Why don't we have that? ;)

[Jakes Progress]

30. K&R You make more sense than all the emotocon warriors put together.

Move the locus of their fealty from bush to Obama and you won't find a nickel's difference in their reasoning, tactics, or moral center.

[Paper Roses]

31. The sun is over the yardarm . Not too early for a beer..

Your post is correct and accurate.

Congress? I bunch of smart high school students could do better.

[muffin1]

33. Have one for me, too.

I have to save all my $$ for my mandated health care w/o a public option. x(

[laughingliberal]

36. +1 nt

[northernlights]

40. I lucked out

my current income so low, I'll be totally subsidized. I planned it that way, too, dontcha know? :cry:

[muffin1]

42. Wow,

That IS lucky...

The company I work for is going out of business soon, so maybe I'll be lucky, too!

:hi:

[Odin2005]

37. +1 Another good thread by Jake!

[Hekate]

39. "The US Congress"--Actually, just the Senate. As the Speaker of the House pointed out to Rachel...

... the US House of Representatives has actually passed the entire Obama agenda (I didn't know that) and it is stalled and dying in THE SENATE. :grr:

Hekate

[druidity33]

44. 290 bills malingering...

all have passed the House and waiting on votes in the Senate....

ugh.

[Hekate]

48. And yet somehow this is all Nancy Pelosi's fault, in a lot of people's eyes. I had no idea...

... that under her leadership the House had gotten ALL of that done -- seriously, I have to get away from this place -- until she said it, and pointed out that it is ALL sitting in the dysfunctional Senate.

Another interesting thing one of the commentators said about her: Nancy Pelosi has never lost a vote in the House. She apparently doesn't let a Democratic bill come to a vote until she is sure it will pass -- and when it comes time to vote, it passes.

I don't think she gets near enough credit in these parts.

Hekate

[rocktivity]

43. Three beers, and I'm going to

wirtiewjt-wj sois s

rocktivity

[DisgustedInMN]

45. Think I'll join you..

... in having a beer. Nice rant Jake, as always, and spot on.

[donco6]

47. Couldn't agree more.

And I'd buy you a beer if you were anywhere near here.

[donheld]

49. k & R

[David Zephyr]

50. K&R #53.

Well said, AllentownJake!

[glowing]

52. In #1, yes, the Iraq war was all about the oil.. and wasn't for making it cheaper,

it was about Saddam changing the price every other day... Which was devastating to the oil men in Houston. The plan was written for the oil boys... However, the war machine got quite a nice kick as well.. which the Carlyle Group desperately needed.

[Jackpine Radical]

53. You mean…

Operation
Iraqui
Liberation?


About oil? What an odd notion!

[glowing]

55. Yep, that would be it.. I believe the plans for the war were on a desk around

1999... Way before George was installed as the Dictator in Chief. The entire story of Weapons of Mass Destruction was Distraction conveniently made up for the fearful American after 9/11. The media and their hyped up rhetoric along with politicians (who supposedly have more intel and aren't supposed to lie) were all over the place screaming terra, terra, terra.... People in the middle of no where were affraid to do anything other than buy plastic, duct tape, and hunker down with their water and canned foods items... When they were in more danger of being struck by lightening, killed in a car accident, or die from lack of health insurance/ care.

[jpak]

54. Going nowhere - what a stupid ignorant statement - GDP went from -6.4% in 1/09 to +5.9% in 12/09

Unemployment dropped from 10.2% to 9.7%

Consumer spending is increasing

Inventories falling

Housing makes stabilizing

Virtually all economic indicators point toward net job growth this spring.

The malcontents can whine all they want, but Obama's economic policies saved us from a Great Depression and turned the economy around.

too fucking bad...

:rofl: