Dennis Kucinich is Not the ONLY ONE Taking a Stand for the Public Option

[ShamelessHussy]

so it is interesting how he is drawing all the fire... I guess the elite think he is an easy straw-man to tear down, and distract us from the real issue.

But the simple fact is that without a true public option, this is simply a bailout of the PRIVATE, FOR PROFIT, Ins. Industry, something our gov. has a recent history of providing aid and comfort to, while leaving the rest of us to fend for ourselves.

I gotta feeling that if this bailout passes the people will take a stand themselves and send a strong message to all the elite that they will take matters into their own hands going forward.

time will tell...

[yurbud]

1. I'm hoping Democrats aren't that stupid and corrupt

[mzmolly]

2. Who else is on the "public option or I vote no" list?

I'm interested in holding everyone to the same standard. Alan Grayson and Anthony Weiner are also taking a stand, but they support reform as a start.

[ShamelessHussy]

9. Sixty House Liberals To White House: No Public Option, No Health Care Reform

http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/health-care/sixty-house-liberals-to-white-house-no-public-option-no-health-care-reform/

Ignorance always allows the elite to easily manipulate us.

This piling on a single PROGRESSIVE congressman should be a TELL to begin with, however, the elite are masters of manipulation and always seem to stir up enough BS to distract us, and to even eat our OWN.

It's not only a damn shame, it is KILLING us.

and so it goes...

[mzmolly]

14. This letter is from last summer.

eom

[ShamelessHussy]

16. and

[mzmolly]

17. and ... some of the 60 are now supporting the bill.

http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2009/08/16/sorry-cant-pass-health-care-bill-without-a-public-option/

Barney Frank, for example - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/19/barney-frank-concedes-hea_n_429128.html

[berni_mccoy]

3. He voted against the Public Option that the House passed. He's voting against the combined HCR Bill

He's voting 100% with the repubs on this. Grayson and the other members of the Progressive Caucus are not with him.

[ShamelessHussy]

11. that is nonsense, but presiesly what the elite want you to think

please call off your circular firing squad long enough to understand who our real enemies are and who are true allies are.

Dennis Kucinich is a true ALLY, who is constantly attacked an thrown under the bus for that very reason... he works for WE THE PEOPLE and NOT corporate, profit over people, special interest.

get a grip people, and smarten up!

[berni_mccoy]

19. Roll call from the PO vote in the House:

http://politics.nytimes.com/congress/votes/111/house/1/887

Dennis voted Nay.

Sorry, truth hurts.

[bvar22]

13. Obama voted with the Republicans...

on Telecom Immunity, FISA, and TARP....
only when Obama voted WITH the Republicans, he AGREED with The Republicans.
So whats your point?


Dennis is taking a principled Progressive stand for the American Working Class by voting AGAINST a Republican Health Care Scam foisted on America by "Centrist" Democrats. No matter HOW many times you stamp your foot and insist that the FALSE is TRUE, that doesn't change the REALITY.

Mandates + NO Publican Option + Anti-LABOR Tax Increase + Massive transfer of Public Money to Private Pockets + $%00Billion de-funding of Medicare = Republican Health Insurance SCAM

I STAND with Dennis.
America should NOT Settle for Far Less than the rest of the civilized WORLD takes for GRANTED because the "Centrist" Democratic Party is corrupt!
Fuck THAT!

Fix it NOW!
Pass it LATER.
"Fixing it Later" is an outright LIE!

[laughingliberal]

20. +1000 nt

[Kablooie]

4. If the bill passes, the fight for a public plan can continue. If it fails, the fight is over.

[Sebastian Doyle]

5. Just the opposite is more likely to be true.

If everyone is "covered" by corporate insurance, the DLC will claim "Mission Accomplished" and they will never allow the subject of ACTUAL reform to ever be discussed again.

The DLC always says "pass the shitty bill and we will fix it later" but they never do. Millions are unemployed right now because they never fixed NAFTA like they promised to way back in 1993. Do you really want to imagine what the condition of "health care" is going to be in this country after 16 years of corporate insurance mandates?

It won't be one goddamn inch closer to REAL health care reform, that's for damn sure.

[Kablooie]

7. I disagree. If it fails Democrats will lose bigtime and there will be no more talk of health reform

It's now or never to get something going.
Then it's up to everyone to keep things going.
But if it stops now. It's dead.

With NAFTA there was no pressure to fix anything.

It's not up to the DLC to keep things going, it's up to us.

[laughingliberal]

21. I believe we are now in that place where the Democrats will lose big time either way. nt

[LooseWilly]

23. support for a bill including a public option is still high...

if only we were in a place where the Democrats would pull their heads out of their asses long enough to take note of that....

I think the near term future of the party is in Nancy Pelosi's hands... Monday. If she gives the White House and the Senate the bird... and includes the public option... and they actually keep their respective words and try to pass it... I think the party will be fine, and will deserve to gain some seats.

Unfortunately, I'll be shocked if that comes to pass. Without the public option, they're playing hot potato with a warm turd... and they're gonna smell bad no matter where it ends up...

[laughingliberal]

24. That is exactly what I've been thinking

All they have to do to save this damned thing is take a deep breath, tell AHIP and the Hospital lobby to go f themselves, put a public option in and pass the bill.

Deed done. Popular bill passed. Whiny Repubs pissed. Everybody else happy. Democrats hold the majority easily in November. Country decides President is serious about what he says and lobbyists learn to fear us.

I see no downside to that at all except the loss of campaign contributions. And with a bill the public is overwhelmingly in favor of, that doesn't mean as much.

[EFerrari]

10. How do you figure that? Isn't that fortunetelling?

These fights are never over, even when we win.

[ShamelessHussy]

12. FACT: The struggle is ETERNAL - MYTH: One Time Offer, buy now or miss the boat

That myth is representative of a salesman, capitalist... not a democracy.

Please do not fall for the BS

[dflprincess]

15. The Democrats have huge majorities now and all they could come up with is this insurance scam

yet, we are expected to believe that they'll be able "fix" this later. Not going to happen.

We'd be better off is this insurance company bail out failed and the "system" we have now were allowed to collapse which it will if it isn't handed millions of captive customers and tax money. Then the government would have to step in and expand Medicare.

[Greyhound]

18. Damn but you guys are funny.

You've got it completely bass-ackward, once this dung pile is dropped on our doorstep, that's the last we'll hear of this for a generation (except for small articles as each half-assed provision is stripped away by the hundreds of lawsuits and the annual notices that prices will go up as services are reduced).

Once it's done, we're done.

[laughingliberal]

22. But look at all the people it will help

Insurance corporation executives, the shareholders, Hospital Corporation CEO's, the shareholders, Pharmaceutical Corporations, the shareholders.

How can you be so selfish?

[flvegan]

25. Continue? With this Congress? That's the funniest thing I've read

in a while. It'll be a checkmark in a "win" column and then move on.

[bvar22]

26. There will be NO "Fixing it Later".

That is an outright LIE to make the current SCAM appear more palatable.
Its not.
It IS a scam, and anyone buying into "we'll fix it later" is a sucker.

Fix it NOW.
Pass it later.

[gleaner]

6. I really hope you're right ..

but the Democrats are stumbling all over themselves like the Keystone politicians. Kucinich draws so much fire because he is a very definite and clear spoken advocate against the status quo, and always has been. We need more like him. In the meantime I agree with you that we have to push back and let our yipping Blue Dogs know that we won't be handing them anymore kibble until they act like watchdogs.

Uh, is it just me or has the spell checker line suddenly gone wavy instead of straight. I hope it's not me. I don't even do drugs.

[Echo In Light]

8. k/r