Ohio woman says Lexus sped up, caused crash

[The Straight Story]

Ohio woman says Lexus sped up, caused crash
Sunday, March 14, 2010 7:40 AM

FORT WAYNE, Ind. (AP) -- An Ohio woman says her Lexus careered through a parking lot and crashed into a light pole in Fort Wayne, Indiana, after its accelerator dropped to the floor.

Myrna Cook was treated for a broken leg and other injuries Thursday. The 67-year-old from Paulding says she almost struck cars and pedestrians.

A police report doesn't indicate how fast her car went, and police did not return a call for comment Saturday. Three spokesmen for Toyota Motor Corp., Lexus's maker, and a National Highway Traffic Safety Administration spokeswoman did not return calls.

Toyota has issued recalls related to acceleration, braking and floor mats that could cause gas pedals to stick. Cook's car was the subject of a floor mat recall.

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/03/14/lexus-speed.html?type=rss&cat=&sid=101

[Kalyke]

1. Some DUer Toyota-defenders will be here shortly to accuse

the woman of being bankrupt, late on her house payment, missing her social security check or some other nefarious "wrong" to "prove" that the LeSucks didn't ACTUALLY speed up and that Toyota could ACTUALLY never make a bad product, but that the woman needed money.

:eyes:

[Name removed]

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[Kalyke]

3. May the spirit of Paul Newman strike you.

He could drive well, well into his 80s.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/6915611

I'm sorry. I don't buy that a 67 year old is necessarily a bad driver - and neither do most auto insurance companies.

[FarCenter]

4. The number of incident is heavily skewed towards older drivers

See http://www.businessinsider.com/a-deep-dive-into-toyota-sudden-acceleration-accident-stats-2010-3

Unless Toyota sell cars mostly to older people (which might be the case, since larger Toyotas have the same mushy driving characteristics as Buicks), the rate of incidents occurs disproportionately among the elderly.

[virgogal]

5. Ummmm---- please explain.

[PJPhreak]

6. Is it just me or...

Does it seem like too many folk seem to forget that Toyota isn't the only or the first auto company to have deadly safety issues with their products...and yet people here are rippin them a new one,like Toyota is the ONLY Auto Co. to try and hide something? Like These...

Ford Explorer suspensions and Firestone (Bridgestone) Tires

The Pinto,Early Mustang and the Crown Victoria...Hot Dogs and marshmallows anyone?

The Chevy Corvair and the VW Bug....Flippin and Tippin,notice BOTH Auto changed their Rear axles to keep the rear tires and wheels from tuckin under the car while cornering.

These are just the most famous ones...how about some Current ones,like



2010 Hyundai Tucson,Recall: AIR BAGS : FRONTAL : SENSOR/CONTROL MODULE

2010 Acura MDX... AIR BAGS

2009 Chrysler 300
Component: WHEELS:LUGS/NUTS/BOLTS October 29, 2009

2009 Dodge Ram 2500
Component: STEERING:LINKAGES:TIE ROD ASSEMBLY January 09, 2009 Units Affected: 32782

General Motors 1982...A key bolt attaching the front suspension to the car could break, which would cause the suspension to collapse suddenly. This has obvious potential for negative outcomes, especially if the vehicle was being driven at the time it failed.
The company recalled ALL its mid-size cars built between 1978 and ’81 to replace the defective bolts. It included the Buick Century and Regal, Chevrolet Malibu and Monte Carlo, Oldsmobile Cutlass, and Pontiac Grand Prix and LeMans.


General Motors (Again) Number of vehicles recalled: 6.7 million
The engine mounts on these vehicles were found to potentially break, letting the engine move around, which could cause the mechanical linkage to jam the throttle.
This affected a variety of Chevrolet models from 1965-’69, including the Chevrolet Bel Air, C-10 pickup, Camaro, Caprice, Chevy II, Impala and Nova. At the time GM used unique engines for each of its brands, so only the Chevrolets had the engine that used the affected mounts.

Ford
Number of vehicles recalled: 7.9 million
Year of recall: 1996
The company warned that the ignition switch on the recalled vehicles could overheat and smoke or catch fire.
Ford recalled most of its models built between 1988 and ’93, including the Aerostar, Bronco, Crown Victoria, Escort, F-150 pickup, Mustang, Tempo and Thunderbird.

I'm sorry,but I find some of these things that Detroit Recalled their cars for to be every bit as life threatening as a stuck Camary Throttle...oh,thats right Chevy had the same kind of problem ALL thru the Sixties but no one bashes a Nova or Chevelle!

sorry about the rant...I'm getting tired of the Toyota bashing...no Management at Toyota are a bunch of fools for the way they dealt with this issue...But Ford or Chevy does not build any better cars!

[divideandconquer]

10. Chevy does build better cars than Toyota

I'm in the car industry and Chevys are better than Toyotas. A Silverado is a far superior truck to anything Toyota ever built. Todays Malibu is better than today's camry. tahoes are better than the ulta gas guzzling seqoia. The equinox is better than a Highlander. A Cobalt drive much better than a corolla.

[PJPhreak]

13. So a Colorado is a better truck than a Tacoma...

so on the same line of thought this...


is a better assembled,engineered and designed Truck than this...



Myself and Millions of others think not.

[divideandconquer]

24. Silverado/Sierra outsell Tundra 6 to 1, Tacoma is just rusty "toy"

Tacomas are one of the most useless vehicles out there, whole sections of the nation can't even have them since they rust so bad. The toy tacoma Prerunner is officially one of the stupidest vehicles ever designed. A 2WD truck jacked up to look like a 4x4, worse handling and safety compromises but a cool macho look nonetheless.

[Dreamer Tatum]

18. Well, I guess that settles it, then.

:eyes:

[TexasObserver]

8. She's old! She's senile! She's probably lying! She's a schemer for money!

She wants attention! She did it herself!

She can fix it with some duct tape!!




Did I leave anything out of THE TOYOTA DEFENDER'S MANIFESTO?

[PJPhreak]

9. Read My Post Above Nt

[TexasObserver]

12. Your point is not a valid one.

You allege that this treatment of Toyota is unique to Toyota. It isn't.

The auto and tire manufacturers you mentioned had to run the same gauntlet for producing bad products. Do you really think Ford didn't have the same experience with Pinto? Or GM didn't have the same experience with Corvair? Or Firestone didn't have the same experience with their tires ten years ago?

DU didn't exist then, so you don't know how DU would have responded to those, but there is no reason to believe it would be different. There is no reluctance on the part of me or any other DUer to lash out at American manufacturers who build unsafe products.

You should ask yourself why you have an extraordinary need to single out Toyota for sympathetic treatment.

[PJPhreak]

14. I think that Toyota management has fucked this one up big time...

But to all of a sudden hear all this "What a piece of crap car" or "Well you know...Jap Crap"
just angers me,Toyotas are as good a automobile as any other...in a lot of cases MUCH better,otherwise they would not of sold the hell out of 'em!!

The American Driver is no fool,they won't buy garbage...Why did the Yugo not outsell the Turcel? Might it have something to do with "Quality"?

[TexasObserver]

16. I haven't seen any such comments here.

"Jap Crap"? Never heard or seen that one.

What I have seen is criticism of a very irresponsible car manufacturer which is now trying to hide behide its remaining loyalists.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

7. So after maybe a few dozen real incidents over many years...

we're supposed to believe that now it's happening every day all over the place?

Because I don't.

[divideandconquer]

11. They just weren't reported before, everyone was brainwashed that Toyota was infallible

New York Mother Files Wrongful Death Lawsuit Against Toyota for Daughter’s Death in Sudden Acceleration Accident Near Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

LOS ANGELES-- (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Robert J. Nelson of the national plaintiffs’ law firm Lieff Cabraser Heimann & Bernstein, LLP, announced that Sandra Livingston of Roosevelt, NY, today filed a wrongful death lawsuit seeking general and punitive damages against Toyota Motor Corporation for the death of her daughter Tyrene Livingston. On October 26, 2007, Tyrene’s 2007 Toyota Yaris suddenly accelerated and crashed while she was driving on U.S. Route 30 in East Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

Prior to the fatal accident, Tyrene Livingston was a promising 21 year-old graduate student who was pursuing her Master’s Degree in Education at the University of Pittsburgh. Tyrene was a confident and inspirational young woman who often helped others and volunteered her time to assist disadvantaged students.
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http://www.smartbrief.com/news/aaaa/industryBW-detail.jsp?id=69FFAFDF-2275-43E3-B53D-3FB0D98DC296

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

17. Brainwashed? Really?

What with fluoride in the water?

[divideandconquer]

20. billions of dollars in advertising isn't brainwashing? Rusbo cheering you on?

Worship of Consumer Reports self selecting surveys are also brainwashing.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

21. Which ads instruct us into thinking these latest cases were faked?

Are they up on youtube?

[FarCenter]

19. I thought that the Toyota advantage was long-term reliability

That they would last 15 years and 150,000 miles with reasonable maintenance expenses, while GM cars were engineered to expire with planned obsolesence after 5 years and 50,000 miles.

This meant that you could keep the car for several years after you had finished making payments and maybe get a little out of hock to the auto loan companies.

While GM "owners" were mainly leasors who replaced their cars every 2 or 3 years, and continued to make payments forever. Or they were people who bought used GM cars, either from lease programs or from rental fleets.

[Last_Stand]

15. +1

[Hissyspit]

22. It's getting more press coverage now. People, including editors and readers, are picking up on it

more. That phenomenon is nothing new.

[Edweird]

23. How's her credit?