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Sun Mar-14-10 03:39 PM
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Have a Sip of Coffee (Party)...you might like it! |
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This Youtube video might give you a little more background information for the Coffee Party movement. Annabel Park gives a nice overview of "Coffee Party: How We Began" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUSDmPIqbD0(If the link doesn't work, just go to Youtube "Coffee Party: How We Began" )
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Sun Mar-14-10 03:42 PM
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1. Is there a Pot Party? n/t |
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Sun Mar-14-10 03:46 PM
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2. How about a "Share a Little Tea with Goldie" party? |
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Yes, I'm old, but that's the type of party I can really get behind.
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Sun Mar-14-10 03:48 PM
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3. Is there someone not wanting this video to be seen? nt |
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Sun Mar-14-10 04:15 PM
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10. I'm gonna second that "pot party" motion. |
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Sun Mar-14-10 03:58 PM
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4. DU has been bombed with Coffee Party PR this weekend |
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The Coffee Party is an attempt to divide Democrats. Ignore it.
Democrats need to hang tough while the Republicans devour themselves.
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Sun Mar-14-10 04:07 PM
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6. I'm not going to be so quick to judge...she seems to be against obstructionism... |
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,,,and for civility in seeking solutions.
I'd rather see how this unfolds......and I saw no "attempt to divide Democrats".
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Sun Mar-14-10 04:14 PM
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8. If she is against obstructionism and for more civility, then join the Democratic Party. |
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The Republicans are the uncivil obstructionists!
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Sun Mar-14-10 04:04 PM
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5. I watched her the other night on Rachel. I think I'll wait till they actually |
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decide where they stand on issues. If, as it seems now, their only concern is civility, I just feel passionate about that right now, not with what's going on now regarding so many issues.
However, if/when they pick an issue or two, and determine to handle it with civility, perhaps then. At this point, it could just as easily end up being another right wing organization that simply behaves civilly. Also I was to understand her as saying that each individual group may determine a separate agenda for itself, so long as it is pursued civilly.
Since I saw here on Rachel, I'm not going to watch the youtube. I will however check in from time to time, and I'm sure I'll see updates here. There is a very small one here so far, I'll keep an eye on it as well if I can.
This may turn out to be great, but it seems kind of iffy to me right now, what exactly I'd be signing up for.
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Sun Mar-14-10 04:14 PM
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7. Between all the coffee and tea, I'm thinking of starting the "50 cents to use the bathroom" party. |
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Sun Mar-14-10 04:15 PM
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9. I went, anythinng that gets people involved in between campaign mode every 2 years is good |
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IMHO
The tea party will blindside us if we don't fight back against the smears & outright lies.
The American electorate has a very short memory and the GOP is masterful at messaging
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Sun Mar-14-10 04:17 PM
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11. I had a sip, and I spat it out |
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It's wishy-washy and pointless. I don't want cooperation with the right wing or the Republican Party. I don't want dialog and compromise. I want the Democratic Party to tap into progressive anger and push a progressive agenda through.
I wish that were likely, but it's less unlikely than the Coffee Party movement doing it.
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Sun Mar-14-10 04:33 PM
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12. Great....that us how YOU solve problems, for others, "spitting" is not an option. nt |
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Sun Mar-14-10 04:38 PM
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Sun Mar-14-10 04:51 PM
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15. Well, jeez, I wasn't going to swallow it! |
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Sun Mar-14-10 06:10 PM
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21. Some people would say posting on DU is pointless |
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Nowhere did anyone say the Coffee Party is about cooperation with Republicans.
But it is not about screaming and being rude at Town Halls or in any public political discourse.
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Sun Mar-14-10 04:44 PM
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14. Let's cut to the chase: What is the agenda? What are the core beliefs? |
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Edited on Sun Mar-14-10 04:46 PM by Warren DeMontague
Find me a group of effective voters who are unapologetically arguing for the following:
Universal health coverage (preferably single payer, if not today then in the eventual future)
Scaling back the ridiculously over-funded military-industrial complex
Reproductive freedom; protecting and strengthening roe v. wade; ensuring universal access to safe, effective contraception; FACT based (as opposed to "abstinence only") sex ed in schools.
Full marriage equality for our GLBT citizens
Ending the drug war; legalizing, regulating, and taxing marijuana; getting government out of private citizens' bodies, bedrooms and bloodstreams
Fully funding both a vigorous manned AND unmanned space exploration program
Rebuilding our infrastructure; investing in public transportation; funding research and development into renewable means of powering our planet
Educating our kids about the FACTS pertaining to science, evolution, etc. Vigorously defending the wall of separation between church and state
...to name a few...
you can call it whatever beverage you want, I'll be there.
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Sun Mar-14-10 05:49 PM
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17. We don't have enough information to answer your questions.... |
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...that was the point of my OP......we need to get as much information as we can BEFORE we make a decision.
But, we all remember the HCR townhall fiasco this past summer. Republicans ACCOMPLISHED their purpose through their screaming, yelling, and generally disruptive behavior. They were able to STOP any valid exchanges between differing points of view. It is my guess....and it IS just a guess.....that the Coffee Party wants to be based on the assurance that different viewpoints WILL be heard..... obstructive tactics not allowed. In this way all YOUR points (for example) can be discussed in a civil manner.
If there are three steps to the general problem-solving process, then we HAVE to be certain that being able to CLEARLY STATE THE PROBLEM (Step 1) can take place. Republicans don't want this to happen.
But, I am willing to withhold judgement on this group until I get more information.
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Sun Mar-14-10 06:37 PM
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23. So, basically, it's a name waiting for a purpose? |
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I mean, come on. Don't you think it makes more sense to gather people together who have common, clearly defined objectives, and THEN figure out what you want to call yourselves?
:shrug:
Also, for the record, I don't buy that the "Tea Party" is any kind of real force in politics, either. I think it's hype.
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Sun Mar-14-10 06:07 PM
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20. "We recognize that the federal government is not the enemy of the people, but the expression of our |
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We recognize that the federal government is not the enemy of the people, but the expression of our collective will. As voters & volunteers, we will support leaders who work toward positive solutions, and will hold accountable those who obstruct."
Mission: Constructive socio-political change.
The Coffee Party will be whatever the members make it.
There are a lot of disgruntled people out there. There needs to be an alternative to the Tea Party.
I think the contrast, (sanity rather than unhinged insane low information voters) will be helpful.
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Sun Mar-14-10 06:16 PM
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22. groups like PDA and DFA seem to be doing those things |
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Edited on Sun Mar-14-10 06:16 PM by ima_sinnic
the "coffee party" reeks of "bipartisanship" and seems wishy-washy. why do we need yet another group dividing progressives?
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Sun Mar-14-10 05:29 PM
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16. I don't know much about it |
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but it seems to automatically conjure up the tea party fools.
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Sun Mar-14-10 05:52 PM
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18. That's my point...educate yourself first, then decide. nt |
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Sun Mar-14-10 08:51 PM
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26. I think they need to state some common goals and values, beyond just "civility". |
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Simply saying 'civility' is the problem skirts the fact that there are very REAL issues at play in this country- that's what the fighting is about.
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Sun Mar-14-10 05:59 PM
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19. I would like to extend to you an invitation to the pants party. |
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The pary...with the pants... The Pants Party!
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Sun Mar-14-10 06:49 PM
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24. There's a party IN my pants. |
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Sun Mar-14-10 06:58 PM
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25. It's pretty difficult to know what this group may evolve into. They are a pretty amorphous |
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entity right now.
My concern about them is that they will simply work to defuse rather than focus the populist anger that exists. They may never really DO anything except get together now and then to make people think they are "activists".
As for cooperation with the Republicans, that party no longer exists in a form that anyone with a conscience can respect. Why should we even pretend they have worthwhile ideas or goals?
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Sun Mar-14-10 09:17 PM
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27. More "bi-partisan", ineffective, attempts at collaboration with the 100% fascist right wing/GOP.... |
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Edited on Sun Mar-14-10 09:17 PM by Joe the Liberal
that has gotten us NO WHERE ever since the day Obama got elected and kept reaching his hand out only to get it bitten and gnawed on by republicans who wish to see him fail. Sorry but there is no "cooperation" with the GOP in today's political climate, which based on that video, seems to be the overall theme of this "party", cooperation.
I'll ask the same thing of this party that I ask of the Teabaggers, Where were you for the last 8 years when Bush was destroying the country? All of sudden they want "cooperation", it's almost as though history starts now :eyes:. Show me a good platform that is not based solely off of useless, ineffective "cooperation" and I might support it but I will not support a party based on the proven failure of trying to cooperate with the GOP.
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