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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 06:40 PM
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Video Expert recreates Toyota sudden acceleration
Edited on Sun Mar-14-10 06:44 PM by boston bean
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRN1CnKrc84&NR=1

You have to watch the video.

The video shows an electronic short that could occur with corrosion and wetness. But it shows that no error or fault when tested later.

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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 06:47 PM
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1. This is the old ABC /Gilbert thing that has been debunked. nt
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 06:51 PM
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3. It was debunked by Toyota right? nt
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 06:55 PM
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4. No, Popular Mechanics and other people who actually know about cars.
Probably Toyota, too, but I won't be looking to them as the central authority on the issue.
It also helps to know a little about human behavior.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 06:57 PM
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5. Can you provide a Pouplar Mechanics article that doesn't use the paid by Toyota debunking committee?
I would really like to read it.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 11:20 PM
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10. Can you provide one that does? I'd like to see the evidence behind your post. nt
Edited on Sun Mar-14-10 11:20 PM by greyl
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 06:48 PM
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2. Toyota is going to get the crap kicked out of them on this. How do you
guard against scams?
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 07:03 PM
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6. The debunking of Gilbert here->
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 07:16 PM
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7. That was helpful. Thank you. Although it still did not record an error.
Is there other scenarios that are not recorded as an error?
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 08:17 PM
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8. I'm not a Toyota mechanic or engineer, but I can try
I'm assuming an error would normally be generated whenever the output voltages (there are two) from the pedal assembly are out of range or missing entirely. Gilbert (or is it Kane in the video?) doesn't describe for the reporter exactly what he's doing, but he is obviously overriding the pedal with signals from a DC power supply that match what a full throttle signal would look like. If these two voltages are within the normal range of a floored pedal, they wouldn't trigger an error. It's highly unlikely that an electrical fault (short, open, or grounded wires) in the sensor circuitry in the pedal or the signal cable connecting to the computer would fail in such a manner as to create the 2-to-1 voltage levels the engine control unit is expecting. See Figure 1 - "TYPICAL ELECTRICAL OUTPUT" at the bottom of the datasheet for the CTS pedal.

http://www.ctscorp.com/automotive/datasheets/703.pdf


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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 08:19 PM
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9. Its been debunked...
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