If Rove Is So "PROUD" Of Waterboarding---WHY Does He INSIST It Is NOT TORTURE?

[kpete]

An excellent point from Adam Serwer: If Karl Rove is really so “proud” to have been a part of waterboarding, then why is he so eager to insist that it’s not torture?
http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=03&year=2010&base_name=roves_pride

One might add: Why was the Bush administration initially so eager to cover up its torture, and conduct its abuses in secret? Once the truth about the Bush administration’s policy of institutionalized torture came out, it turned out to be something that the right thinks works for it politically and they like to brag. But back in the high tide of the torturing, they clearly understood that they were doing something shameful and wanted to keep it secret. And even today they’re ashamed of what it is they were actually doing. In their constant invocations of SERE training as way of showing that waterboarding’s not so bad they reveal themselves. The logic of their arguments is that brutality works and it’s good, but they can never quite bring themselves fully and fulsomely embrace that idea and instead want to turn around and minimize the enormity of their actions. But if the justification of the brutal coercion involved in waterboarding is that it works then why is the semantic argument about torture even relevant?

http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2010/03/the-torture-party.php

[mcctatas]

1. My guess...

even Karl knows torture is evil and is savvy enough not to proclaim his pride in something that most of the world considers evil

[saltpoint]

2. His mind is a kind of zone of sub-radar violence. From the earliest

days when I began to see him in interviews it struck me that he was in some way disconcertingly disordered. There is a sense of absence of ethical reference in his speech. His eyes dart around like a lizard in a toxic pond.

He comes across in interviews as someone who might play Hannibal Lector in a local community troupe. "Karl should play lead; he's perfect for the part." And the local audience walks to their car saying, "Jeez, the guy who played Hannibal sure was creepy."

[doc03]

3. I would like to volunteer to water-board Rove and whatever

to Hannity? Hannity said he would volunteer to be water-boarded for charity, I don't recall that ever happening.

[opihimoimoi]

4. Just like them ChickenHawks...the TortureHawks like to promote something they were not a party to

They promote shit they had not been a part of...neither torturee nor torturor....

and yet they dictate/promote it by parsing with definitions and dismissive language...

The GOPer Hawks are despicable and EVIL

Rove is an ALIEN BEING POSING AS A HUMAN....he Promotes the DownFall of ManKind

The GOP Party has many like kind....Alien Assholes Posing as Humans....they even have kids

Some have reached high levels of our Gov't....

Mission: get Humans to kill each other...self annihilation

[Zoeisright]

5. Because he's a squealing little asshole.

He can't even keep his own lies straight. He should be in the Hague.