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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 05:32 AM
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Move on student loans could win healthcare votes, House Dems say
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/86661-move-on-student-loans-could-win-healthcare-votes-house-dems-say

Attaching a student aid bill to the healthcare reform legislation could attract support for the whole measure, according to senior House Democrats.

The House already passed the bill which would essentially cut private lenders out of federal student lending programs, and it is a major priorities for Democrats in the lower chamber, President Barack Obama and liberal advocates.

Democratic leaders are in the process of cobbling together the 216 votes needed to advance the healthcare reform bill and will gladly take all the help they can get.

When the student lending bill passed the House last September, it received 247 Democratic votes – or 27 more than the healthcare reform bill that passed in December. Thirty-two Democrats who backed the education bill opposed the healthcare legislation.

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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 06:21 AM
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1. cheap tactics
to try and pass a horrendous piece of legislation. Way to go, Dems. :eyes: :puke:
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 06:58 AM
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2. Why is student loan legislation going through Reconciliation? A little history.
Edited on Mon Mar-15-10 07:00 AM by Pirate Smile
The Student Loan thing was configured to be able to go through Reconciliation last year because
Ben Nelson was going to filibuster it.

Dated April 24, 2009:

Obama To Nelson: We're Going Around You

It might not be the most glamorous hill, but it's the one that Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) has vowed to die on. President Obama, however, isn't going to give him that chance.


Nelson is perhaps the Senate's fiercest protector of subsidies for student lending institutions, which, not coincidentally, are an engine of job growth in Nebraska. He has vowed to block any effort to reduce those subsidies. And given that Democrats have 58 members and generally need 60 to break a GOP filibuster, he can enforce his will on his colleagues.

An agreement struck between the president and House and Senate negotiators won't give Nelson that chance. A process known as "reconciliation" allows budgetary measures to be moved through the Senate with a simple majority, rather than 60. Multiple congressional sources say that congressional Democrats have decided to use reconciliation to go after student-lending subsidies, specifically to get around Nelson.

The Nebraska Democrat has become the bane of liberal bloggers and other progressive activists for his insistence on pushing legislation in a more conservative direction. Nelson's critics will no doubt relish the decision to make his threat of a 'no' vote meaningless.

Nelson spokesman Jake Thompson said that Nelson was not the only target of the reconciliation move and that other members of Congress represented constituents who would also be on the losing end of the reform. He noted that NelNet, the Nebraska student lending institution, employs 1,000 people and those jobs would all be at risk of being shipped to Washington, DC.

"He remains opposed. Whatever strategy he might pursue to exercise that opposition, we're not at that point yet," he said. "Maybe we can work something out."

UPDATE: An important comment from a reader e-mail:

I think the public needs to know exactly what the current student loan program does and why it is such a giveaway to the banks. I think people don´t know, probably because most of the news coverage is about whether or not a bill will pass rather than what it means.

Simply, the current system forces all student loans to be made through banks. The banks charge a medium range of interest--not terribly high, but not terribly low, either. The government GUARANTEES the loans so there is absolutely no risk for the banks.

During Clinton´s term, the student loan plan allowed universities to offer much lower loans by borrowing directly from the government. Students did not have to go through a bank and this shaved 2 or 3 percentage points off the cost of the loan. Neither did it cost the government anything since the money was repaid. But when the Bushies came in, they forced all loans to go through banks, jacking up the interest rates and guaranteeing a profit with no risk for the banks. The government still backed all the loans.

It is a classic example of how lobbying creates direct subsidies for businesses who win their lobbying efforts.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/24/obama-to-nelson-were-goin_n_191201.html


From the article in the OP:
On Thursday, the Senate parliamentarian “said it must be part of reconciliation. And so that’s why it has emerged again,” Pelosi told reporters.

Save your vomit for something other then the backs of kids getting through college with student loans. You sure as hell don't have the moral high ground here.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 08:44 AM
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3. well, yes, I do, actually
I'm all for getting kids in college, and for REAL health care reform.

Attaching a student loan bill onto this ludicrous HCR bill is a cheap tactic, pure and simple.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 08:52 AM
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4. Bullshit. They put it in for going through Reconciliation LAST SPRING because it was the only way
they could pass it. It actually wasn't about Health Care. It was about not having 60 votes to get it through the Senate.

The other option is not passing it.
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