The people voting with Republicans ideologically are not people like Kucinich

[Ardent15]

Who is more corporatist than the Republicans? Evidently, the current Democratic leadership.

I'm talking about any Democratic congressperson who votes for this health insurance mandate. That's health INSURANCE mandate. It's not true health care reform no matter how you want to spin it.

I'm talking about any Democratic congressperson who supports President Obama's war on public schools. Reagan would be proud.

I'm talking about any Democratic congressperson who votes to continue and EXPAND wars of aggression overseas.

People like to say that "a vote against HCR is a vote with the GOP!" Bullshit. The GOP is opposing this bill because their political lives depend on it. People like Dennis Kucinich are opposing it because the bill is counter-intuitive to common sense.

Here's my prediction: A large number of the Dems who voted for "health care reform" are gonna be out of a job by the end of the year.

So let's turn this argument on its head. Instead of, "A vote against HCR is a vote for the GOP", how about "A vote FOR this bill is a vote for the GOP." Because that's what will happen; the Republican Party goes for the jugular, and they smell blood, like sharks. They know we've shot ourselves in the leg, so they can take us down in 2010.

Republicans will win both houses by a large margin if this bill passes.

[Skittles]

1. CORRECT

[ProSense]

2. "Republicans will win both houses by a large margin if this bill passes." Nonsense

Kucinich's no vote isn't any different from the Republicans voting no.

[eridani]

3. On HCR, the Repukes win either way.

Obama campaigned against mandates in 2008 because it was politically smart, and the Republicans surely noticed. Either they get to say neener neener you lost, or they get a major asset in mandates, which are as unpopular as the public option is popular.