Rachel called JD Hayworth on a LIE

[Toots]

He said they disagreed and she presented all the evidence and said it was empirical that what he said just was not true, no disagreement just facts..He didn't look all that comfortable after that..

[RDANGELO]

1. What was the lie?. n/t

[tishaLA]

2. He quoted a MA Supreme Court decision about marriage equality

but the quotation he cited doesn't actually exist.

[DirkGently]

5. I believe it was

... on a question as to the way he'd characterized the Massachusetts Supreme Court's definition of "marriage." He had claimed on a radio show that the court's definition was simply, "intimacy," (and then made a disturbing allusion to horses). Rachel apparently had all of the court's references to "intimacy" in front of her, and all included context around the word "intimacy" making it clear the court was talking about a loving, adult-human/adult-human relationship.

He sputtered and kept trying to leap past the subject (the same way he tried to leap past the subject of Abramoff) and wanted to characterize things as "well, we have a disagreement here" and "that's your opinion." To which Rachel responded something like, "It's not opinion, it's empirical -- it's either in there or it isn't."

As I think someone pointed out in a similar thread on this topic, the whole, "My 'opinion' (read: distortion, lie, omission) is equal to your facts" meme is emblematic of the recent (largely conservative) attempt to eliminate the notion of objective truth in public debate. "You may SAY the earth is round, but I BELIEVE otherwise," etc.

She smacked him down calmly, politely, and rationally, and was respectfull to his "side" ... while still refusing to concede that he was entitled to his own version of the facts. She wrapped it up by having her staff post the court decision in question on her website, so people could judge for themselves what the court said. Very effective.

[indypaul]

12. His lips were moving n/t

[lunatica]

3. He had a condescending attitude and look the whole time but

His face was getting redder and redder. In the end he hid behind it being a disagreement between them, which is why she said it was the truth, not an opinion. Then he kept repeating himself knowing full well he was looking like an idiot. She said she would have her research team look into it so they could settle it. I suspect she'll do just that.

At the beginning he looked so full of himself. A big condescending smile plastered on his face. But the more I see of how Rachel pushed him against the wall the more I see it's really hard for people like him to keep that schooled politician's expression. Their ears start to burn, their micro muscles start moving and even though their major facial muscles are still in place the expressions changes. The smile looks forced. The eyebrows start changing shape and the muscles around their eyes and mouth start looking more forced and rigid. Funny. It would be obvious is side by side photos were shown of the expression before they got skewered and after. The contrast would be very telling.

[DirkGently]

6. Absolutely

... his whole demeanor had a weird, plasticky feel to it. He kept repeating canned phrases like, "I'm glad to be able to clear that up," when he clearly hadn't. He looked and sounded like a robot on Botox.

Rachel had a good way of asking that "one more question" that kept him from ending on his little soundbites the way he was obviously determined to.

[ThomWV]

4. He sure was a sleazy bastard.

[Gold Metal Flake]

7. Kick for what the media would look like if it had a liberal bias.

That was an epic smackdown.

[mindfulNJ]

8. Just one?

:evilgrin:

[bullwinkle428]

9. Hayworth literally left skid marks, in trying to escape from that studio!

Rachel had him hog-tied on the floor, crying for his Mommy!

[Gin]

10. does his smile remind anyone of Howdy Doody?

If he wins...the thought of his face on TV regularly is disturbing.

[rbixby]

11. Bravo Rachel!

I never fail to be impressed with her, especially how she always makes sure she has the facts in front of her. I guess you can disagree with the facts, but that doesn't make you any less wrong.