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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 07:10 PM
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I am assuming all of you Kill the Bill people opposed the Clinton bill in 1994?
That bill would have built off of the private insurance regime and contained no public option (indeed, it was never proposed by the Clintons at any stage)
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 07:14 PM
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1. I'm assuming you pro corporate people voted for Reagan.
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polpilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 07:42 PM
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14. Bill was NEVER serious about reform of the healthcare system. NEVER. Remeber his speech to the AMA
at that time. He was just giving Hillery 'something to do.' What were the results and the FOLLOWUP. NOTHING. At least Kucinich KNOWS what he believes.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 07:17 PM
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2. I was too busy trying to feed my kids but, yeah I would have opposed that, too.
Sometimes the party good and the people good are not the same. It's a constant negotiation. That's just how it is.

Try not to take it personally.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 07:27 PM
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3. I'm amused at how all the kill the bill people...
accuse other people of siding with corporations. When it's the corporations that want to kill the bill.

And they always attack Obama over his efforts at bipartisanship. When they're the ones joining the republicans in wanting to kill the bill. Maybe that's partisan, but it's for the wrong party.

Sense. They make none.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 07:30 PM
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4. I'm patiently waiting for them to turn on Kucinich for voting yes...
and thus being shown to be a thorough and complete liar about his "principles".

Because we all know that Kucinich-messiah disciples would never be hypocrites, right? Certainly if/when Kucinich flip-flops *on his principles*, his disciples will "hold his feet to the fire" right? They're certain to "speak the truth to power", right?

Of course they will. Because they're not hypocrites.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 07:32 PM
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6. They turned on Dean, they'll turn on Kucinich.
But they'll be pretty quiet about it.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 07:39 PM
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11. Ah - nope. They're already hard at work coming up with a cover story to save face...
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 07:42 PM
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13. That person's likely a rarity.
Don't expect much of that.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 07:47 PM
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18. +40 million
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Luciferous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 07:31 PM
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5. I was 13 at the time, so I wasn't paying any attention to politics.
Did the Clinton bill mandate insurance without a public option? Because if it did, I would have opposed it.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 07:34 PM
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7. Where were you when I needed a babysitter, hmmm?!
Edited on Tue Mar-16-10 07:34 PM by EFerrari
:)

/oops
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 07:37 PM
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10. It did not have a mandate...
...another misleading OP.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 07:34 PM
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8. Yes, I opposed that piece of crap too! (NT)
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 07:35 PM
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9. 'built off of the private insurance regime' - whatever that means.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 07:41 PM
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12. Who said the 1994 proposal had a private insurance mandate in it????????? nt
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 07:43 PM
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15. You're on a roll today. All downhill.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 07:44 PM
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16. Found a handy shortcut:
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 07:47 PM
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17. Hillary's 1993 healthcare plan wanted corporations to provide every employee health insurance.
It was not an individual mandate.
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gleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 07:50 PM
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19. While it is not a safe bet to assume that you know ..
what someone else is thinking, I will tell you that I was not in favor of Clinton's bill either. Same reason. No real reform and no real benefit except to special interests.

Now maybe you can tell me what you are getting at here? Your post infers a lot but doesn't clarify any of it. I don't want to assume what you are thinking. It would be better if you explained it.:shrug:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 07:50 PM
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20. I didn't like it and I could see why it was killed.
I thought the Clintons would try again. I was dumbstruck that they never pushed for anything again. I don't think they seriously wanted anything workable and only did it to fulfill Bill's campaign promise. It was the reason I voted for him and I was very disappointed to find out what a corporatist he turned out to be and how quickly he distanced himself from the health care issue after that. It was the reason I wasn't fond of Hillary for President. I felt something similar would happen to move the problem out of the way one more time.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 08:00 PM
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21. Still trying to triangulate support for a corporate giveaway?
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