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Tue Mar-16-10 08:47 PM
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It has become radical to speak the truth, apparently |
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There's so much bullshit in this nation, someone who speaks the truth is considered an "extremist", a "radical", or whatever.
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Tue Mar-16-10 08:49 PM
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I'm getting tired of being labeled a librul elitist for speaking the truth.
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Tue Mar-16-10 08:55 PM
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Tue Mar-16-10 09:01 PM
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12. Hey it's not easy being a Bluebear. |
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Tue Mar-16-10 08:56 PM
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9. I have been labeled as being a Rovian, republican, GOPer |
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Edited on Tue Mar-16-10 08:57 PM by MUAD_DIB
by those who aren't able to defend their positions.
A progressive, to me, is not one that makes statements that can be easily pulled apart or questioned without at least having a stronger defense that is not based on "Fuck You."
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Tue Mar-16-10 09:31 PM
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If I'm not getting called a "radical" progressive, I'm getting called a freeper. It's amazing the way the tone of the board has changed since Obama was elected.
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Wed Mar-17-10 06:27 AM
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Tue Mar-16-10 08:50 PM
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2. In an era of mass delusion, calling a thing by it's proper name can be an act of treason. |
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Tue Mar-16-10 08:50 PM
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3. If only Kucinich hadn't brought attention to what this bill lacks, |
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no one in Congress would have. That is why they hate him.
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Tue Mar-16-10 08:51 PM
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4. Then let's be radical. |
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Tue Mar-16-10 08:51 PM
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5. It would seem that way, and it's happening right here actually. n/t |
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Tue Mar-16-10 08:52 PM
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6. How radical is it to not accept the reality of a current situation? That |
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too could be considered bullshit.
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Tue Mar-16-10 08:54 PM
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Norman Solomon Cold war liberals went witch-hunting against "premature anti-fascists" sixty years ago; reminds me of how Dennis Kucinich is now under attack for being, in effect, a "post-mature pro-public-optionist." Some of the same forces (e.g. MoveOn) that spent all last year touting a public option as essential are now attacking Kucinich for his insistence on a public option........
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Tue Mar-16-10 08:59 PM
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11. And the question that really comes to mind is; If the Democrats were going to pass this bill via |
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Reconciliation, why did they not include a Single Payer or Public Option from the get-go?
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Tue Mar-16-10 09:05 PM
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14. MoveOn has become no better than an astroturf organization |
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Edited on Tue Mar-16-10 09:06 PM by jonnyblitz
flaking for the powerful interests/politicians against the little guy, IMO. I wonder when they will come out demonizing and blacklisting folks who speak out against Obama's war escalation.
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Tue Mar-16-10 08:59 PM
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10. When people like Beck and Limbaugh have the microphone |
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and poisen the masses against watching out for the fellow man and righ is wrong and up is down....
Compassion is evil and socialist Healthcare is evil and socialist Civil Rights for all Americans is evil History can be rewritten to sow the extreme Rightest Agenda...
I say this, I now understand how a progressive Germany capsized and became a radical insane nation. I am looking at the period before the wars.....the indoctriniation of the young and the ignorant. The self loathing and self hatred of failure.......a bad economy after WWI.
This is just the beginning they right wing facist feel empowered, Texas is now going to give Phylis Shafely a place in the history books and remove references to Thurgold Marshall. Reagan is being elevated to the level of a saviour...this is how it happens........
Can America pull back from the brink? I don't know.....
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Tue Mar-16-10 09:02 PM
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13. Who do you think owns the truth in all their infallibility and infinite wisdom? |
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Tue Mar-16-10 09:35 PM
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21. Who but you is using those ridiculous terms? |
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Tue Mar-16-10 09:08 PM
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15. it has become radical to believe you have a monopoly on the truth |
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especially when all you are speaking is opinion
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Tue Mar-16-10 09:21 PM
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16. Why doncha just move to liberal soshalist land. |
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Tue Mar-16-10 09:24 PM
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17. George Orwell, 1945: "In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." |
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Tue Mar-16-10 09:29 PM
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18. Any true activist knows this - you are a threat to their mindset and comfort level |
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Literally, people see you as a threat.
They can't handle the implications of the truth, and they are so fearful of what that means - the fight or flight kicks in.
They are fleeing from their fear. And, as you are the messenger for what they are fleeing from in desperation, YOU become the threat.
So, they ignore you, dismiss you, laugh at you, threaten you...anything to make the fear go away.
The only problem for them is that the messenger isn't the threat. The truth remains true whether is is known or not.
That is why it takes a crisis for change to occur. In a crisis, there is no where to run. You either confront it or it wins.
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Tue Mar-16-10 09:58 PM
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As an activist I've seen it a hundred times.
You bring forward a truth that others have either avoided, or even innocently overlooked, and they want to kill the you, the messenger.
Sometimes, too, you make them look like friggin idiots.
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Tue Mar-16-10 09:34 PM
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20. Oh, no kiddng. We're so co-opted, just speaking up |
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is some kind of taboo.
Forget about "truth", what about just asking reasonable questions?
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Tue Mar-16-10 10:18 PM
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23. Not as radical to speak the truth as it is unusual to know it. |
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There is practically no end of volunteers to speak the "truth" now. Come on. It's not radical any more. We're awash in deeply sincere idiocy.
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Wed Mar-17-10 06:25 AM
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24. Yep. But maybe that's always been the case. |
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Wed Mar-17-10 08:20 AM
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26. "Either you repeat the same conventional doctrines everybody is saying, or else you say something... |
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... true, and it will sound like it's from Neptune." ~ Chomsky
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Wed Mar-17-10 08:28 AM
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27. The Right is now in NEOCON territory |
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The Right is Neocon territory, (the GOP) what used to be Right, anyway.
The DLC is now what the GOP right used to be.
The Democrats, many of them, are what used to be the RIGHT.
the only people left who are actually left wing and liberal minded are called radical progressives, which is what many Dems USED to be.
the whole thing has shifted .
if you are what Dems used to be, pro union, pro workers, anti war, anti corporatist..you are now considered on the fringe..even by fellow democrats who bought into GOP policies..
ugly , indeed.
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Wed Mar-17-10 10:47 AM
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28. I'm proud of being a new RADICAL on DU... |
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"The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie, deliberate, contrived and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic. Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." ~ John F. Kennedy
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