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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 10:01 PM
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It really isn't a matter of a civil and cordial disagreement...
Edited on Tue Mar-16-10 10:29 PM by scentopine
there are some who say we need to support our president and democratic leadership because they are democrats and we are democrats, that we need to be "civil" in discussions and maintain a certain academic and artificial protocol for avoiding anything controversial. In this respect we should all endeavor to be more like our president - avoiding controversy, put aside principals and focus on immediate gain, something which cannot be achieved through passion and certainly not anger. Imagine if during the civil rights movement people demonstrated anger, we'd still be a nation of black and white bathrooms. History shows us it was realistic, pragmatic bi-partisan free-market solutions that won huge victories in civil rights. And, like so many gains in rights and liberties, these things are only achieved by civil and polite discussions. It was happy talk that got us out of Vietnam and it is happy talk that will get us out of our two wars in Asia. If our public school system wasn't so biased against the Vietnam War, I would have realized this sooner.

To be sure, I am not one of the angry liberals who weigh down the democratic party. I am not angry about the way the democrats are conducting themselves after gaining a nearly unprecedented grip on power and decision making in Washington along with a clear mandate for change. Instead I have to admit to myself (and others should do the same), I am simply one of the very stupid people who didn't understand what Obama was saying while he was campaigning for change. It is our fault. He gave us all the information we needed, we are just not smart enough to understand his words. This is exactly why we need to fire public school teachers. They need to be held accountable.

For example, I did not understand that Obama would not prosecute those responsible for torture nor hold them accountable. In fact, it should have been obvious that not only would he not prosecute - he would reward those responsible with huge new appropriations and a new "cyber security" agency to go along with TSA, HSA, FBI, CIA, ATF, Army, Navy, Air Force, marines, NSA, INS, AT&T, state/local police, Border Patrol, Customs along with about a million or so DoD contractors all principally involved with keeping us "safe". I should have realized that oversight and accountability are simply not needed and our military industrial complex is doing "one heck of a job" keeping us "safe" (mostly from people like me who would stupidly restrict their funding). Thank goodness Obama is threatening to veto oversight legislation and continues to support our home land security act. Like wall street, our military complex and our investment in wars around the globe is too big to fail. They deserve our support; unlike our incompetent public school teachers.

After the wall street disaster, I did not realize that Obama would not fire those responsible for oversight at the SEC. I now realize that he was very clear about this. And, I should have realized that he clearly articulated his plan to stuff the treasury with wall street insiders. As bonuses and salaries explode on wall street and CEOs prosper, so does the democratic party and so does America. It is a special brilliance that I am unable to recognize - those responsible for disaster should be given large pools of money as a form of encouragement. I am ashamed at my ignorance - an ignorance seeded by lousy public school teachers who need to be held accountable. Thank god we are firing teachers and cutting their pay. Thank god for brave new democratic administrators fighting to privatize and give our teachers some necessary re-education.

On health care reform, Obama clearly stated that we must under all circumstances protect and preserve the way of life for insurance company CEOs and their executive staff members along with the for-profit health industry CEOs and their executive staff members and their corporate campaign "donations". I am only too happy to do without, so that these heros of America can prosper - they give us the hope we may become them one day and this hope keeps America great. It brings tears to my eyes to see these great stewards of American enterprise disparaged by mean and uncivil comments. We need to be respectful and polite and by all means, less angry and more happy. Clearly, I would be more happy and supportive except for all that self esteem bullshit I learned in public school. So, thank you BO, thank you for supporting and propping up your wall street heros so that we may emulate them. Unlike our worthless, work for pennies public school teachers.

Had I not been so distracted with all the noise from liberal teachers 40 years ago, I would have clearly heard Obama's plan to escalate our 10 year war in Afghanistan. I must apologize to the centrists and moderates and realists and pragmatists. I am just the perfect stereotype of a dumb liberal, publicly educated. Thank goodness we have clear headed and private school centrists who understand the necessary slaughter of poor people who live under a corrupt narco state dictator. They are poor, after all - what's a few thousand dead peasants compared to 1 or 2 terrorists? My public school education is impairing my judgment. When you run the numbers it makes perfect sense to continue the slaughter. Liberal teachers suck at math. I am depending on the kindest of the new democrats to reform education so that I may know math.

Where was I when I heard Obama clearly state that he would focus the majority of his term in office working with republicans making sure their interests are taken care of first, before the rest of the nation? Because liberal public schools retarded my critical thinking skills, I missed this completely. Like those who refused to allow Neville Chamberlain's plan to win over Hitler, public school educated liberals are not allowing Obama's plan to work its magic on republicans. Liberals like me don't know this because public school teachers are biased against the confederacy and Nazi Germany and they censored these facts from us. Now is not the time for anger, it is a time to fire teachers.

Once more, public school liberals are failing to see the brilliance of new free trade agreements as a way to lift ourselves out of a jobless recovery. In fact, we have to outsource our jobs to uneducated, low wage and unregulated markets because our incompetent public school system taught us that we should expect fair wages and regulated working conditions. Sure we got straight-A's, but the really smart ones work for $4 dollars an hour in a Bangalore sweat shop. We need to put a stop to public school waste and abuse, it is forcing our great corporate leaders to look beyond our borders for a more obedient work force. Public schools need to discipline teachers, not students.

No I am not angry as I now understand that no change in this world has ever occurred because of anger. Just look at those tea baggers; all angry and on the news every single hour of every single day. Those idiots. Sheesh. All that exposure is killing them. They are clearly having no influence what so ever. I mean look at Sarah Palin. She got less than 50% of the vote, only 60,000,000 votes... lol! what a loser! Obama blew her away with 70,000,000 votes!

So, I'm on board with the new civility being asked for here. Liberals need to be quietly supportive or say nothing at all. There is a seat saved for us at the back of the bus. And by all means please, please don't get angry. Its either the back of the bus or under the bus. To show my support of the new democrats, I'm thinking maybe we need a cap and trade for health insurance. Need some cash and have some health care benefits or maybe a kidney to spare? Let's trade em on the open market using an exchange run by wall street! There is no end to the creative spirit of anyone who can shake off a liberal public school education! Let's get behind the centrists, embrace their brilliant neo-conservative heritage and take back America, one liberal at a time!






















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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 10:03 PM
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1. "...nearly unprecedented grip on power and decision making in Washington"???
Edited on Tue Mar-16-10 10:07 PM by Gman
You didn't make good grades in history, did you? The Democratic majorities are very minor compared to what FDR had. Not surprisingly, FDR, et al were able to do many good things. Obama has nothing remotely close to what FDR had. Obama will not be able to deliver the kind of change that's needed and wanted in this country. He doesn't have the votes. Only an FDR era majority will accomplish thast.
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MindandSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 10:04 PM
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2. I disagree with your statement, but I respect your right to make that statement.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 10:05 PM
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3. It seems some need the sarcasm tag
I got it, and I found your post to be exceptional.

K&R!
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 10:06 PM
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4. Can you post a link to Obama saying any of these things.
Such as....

On health care reform, Obama clearly stated that we must under all circumstances protect and preserve the way of life for insurance company CEOs and their executive staff members along with the for-profit health industry CEOs and their executive staff members and their corporate campaign "donations".

Because if you can't, then what you wrote is ever bit as truthful as the signs at a Teaparty protest.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 10:14 PM
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6. jeezuz
:facepalm:
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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 10:19 PM
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8. lol!
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happy_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 10:43 PM
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10. +1
well done scentopine!
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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 07:30 PM
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11. thanks - it needs to be said even if most people will completely miss the point -nt
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 10:13 PM
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5. heh
That's the secret!! Fire the school teachers!!

It's their fault we have torture and misplaced defense dollars.
So glad we finally found out who's been screwing us over!

</grin>

Good enough rant for a big kick.

Oh, btw, welcome to the nightmare.
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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 10:31 PM
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9. thanks!
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 10:14 PM
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7. knr
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 08:16 PM
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12. Heh heh
Very good point about public schools. :hi:
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