Do You Want The Current Health Care Reform Bill To Pass ?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

[lamp_shade]

1. NOBODY wants it to fail.

[ShortnFiery]

2. Nobody wants MANDATES with abso-f**king-lutely no PREMIUM cost controls.

This Senate Bill, as is, is a Trojan horse! It will GUT the middle class, in that, those who have money will have to declare bankruptcy to keep up with the premiums.

[DrDan]

3. this bill is insane - 90% sell-out

[emilyg]

9. Correct.

[Cronus Protagonist]

14. + ten million

And THAT will eviscerate the Democratic party. Perhaps rightly so, for passing a Republican health insurance giveaway instead of a health CARE plan.

[LWolf]

4. I'm not nobody. nt

[The_Commonist]

6. Nobody wants it to fail?

You're kidding, right?

[lamp_shade]

7. Not kidding. So far, I haven't heard anybody say "I want it to fail".

[Edweird]

13. I don't want 'failure', I want the RIGHT THING. The senate bill isn't it.

The senate bill is a 'win' for the republicans short term and long term. Short term sees THEIR OWN IDEAS PUT INTO LAW BY DEMS! (WIN) Long term sees voter anger and retribution at the poll for this - giving the republicans their unpopular policy as law AND THE ABILITY TO CAMPAIGN AGAINST IT. (WIN)

[Davis_X_Machina]

5. It already passed -- this fall in the House...

...and just before Christmas in the Senate.

[Better Believe It]

8. Which bill? The Senate bill?

[spin]

10. This is not Heath Care Reform ...

[gleaner]

11. I voted no ....

I don't want to see it passed because it is a bad bill conceived of in back room deals, per the New York Times and other sources, and because it will not help anyone except the insurance companies.

I don't think you can say that no one wants it to fail, because a great many people do. We want real health care for real people who haven't made $10,000 that they can pull out of a cash hoard somewhere to protect themselves from its failings.

If this passes now, it will never be revisited. There will be no chance at actual reform that is not driven by lobbyists and special interest groups, and in essence we will be telling the politicians who took bribes from the health care industry that it was OK to do so and we will be stuck with a clunker of a bill that we were bought and sold to guarantee lifetime security for the people in power who sold us for chump change.

[Edweird]

12. Employer mandate and single payer get enthusiastic support. A strong public option is the COMPROMISE

Anything less is unacceptable. The current bill is a travesty.

[reggie the dog]

15. Single payer national health care

funded by a combination of increased income tax up to at least 50% if not 60% for the wealthiest classes, then use the taxes from income tax to pay for health care. This would free the burden from businesses, the poor, and the middle class. If that is not enough money you can still have people pay premiums each month, but very low premiums, cigarette taxes and alcohol as well as cannabis taxes could also be put into the system.

combined with price control as well as reform to how much you can sue for to cut down liability costs for doctors the system would be cheaper for a large percentage of americans than the current system, well over half of you if not three quarters of you would pay less.

health care quality would increase,

live spans would go up

illness would decrease

SINGLE PAYER NATIONAL HEALTH CARE! hell you could even adminster some of the details at state levels, such and such state would tax cannabis, tobacco, alcohol at such and such rate for their state system,

THE DEMOCRATS WOULD DO THAT IF THEY WORKED FOR THE PEOPLE! THEY ARE SELLOUTS AND HAVE BEEN BRIBED!

[Faryn Balyncd]

16. This bill will mandate we pay for a system TWICE as expensive as anywhere else, and inflating TWICE

.....as fast as anything else, and.because the President I voted & worked for forced the Senate to cave to Lieberman and kill the Medicare Buy In, and has thus abandoned the only hope of controlling costs, will guarantee that inflation will ACCELERATE even faster.

With this bill, the Democratic Party has created a monster in the name of "reform".

And threatens to turn the country over to proto-fascists.




When the only politicians working to do the right thing are doing it for the WRONG reasons, we know we have really screwed up.