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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 10:05 AM
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"Vista Security" malware is a more advanced version of "Anti Virus 2000"
This is a partial cross-post from the Computers & Internet group. I felt it was important for everyone on DU to be aware of this.

Basically, this strain of malware pretends to be anti-virus software that has "found a threat" on your computer. It does a pretty good job of looking legitimate, including putting a little shield icon in the system tray and putting up those annoying "cartoon balloons" that make Vista so easy to hate. The entire purpose is to get you to "activate your security" or "get the full version" so you'll fork over credit card information.

The problem is that it makes the machine useless for anything productive. The windows pop up all over the place, some can't be moved and stay on top, and it redefines ".exe" so programs you try to run pass through it. The older ones just took control of IE but the new one takes over Firefox as well. Removing it is the only thing to do and DO NOT USE THE MACHINE FOR FINANCES until you are sure that it is gone.

If you are comfortable with removing it yourself, see my post in the Computers and Internet group: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=242x30344

If not, get thee to a computer geek. Whatever you do, DO NOT click on any of the buttons in the pop-ups. I've read that some of them are actually entirely fake windows and the "X" box is an active hot button for its evil purposes. I haven't (and won't) try that to verify it.

Beware DU. I hope this helps.

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City of Mills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 10:08 AM
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1. Good post
I've come across this one a few times, fortunately it's not hard to remove once you figure out where the av.exe file is hiding. Of course, you have to fix your EXE file association too...but other than that...

Had a friend call me on this one, his wife almost paid for a 'subscription' for this, had to sit them down and explain to them to NEVER pay for something that pops up suddenly on their PC and ALWAYS check with me first!
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 10:12 AM
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2. This one's really nasty. It does a lot more than just the .exe swap.
It hits like 56 registry entries in addition to the files it mucks with. The older "Anti Virus 2000" only hit 2 registry entries and 4 files. Each strain is different. AntiMalware does the trick, but getting it to run with the new flavor of this malware is the real trick.

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City of Mills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 10:14 AM
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5. Oh yeah
I forgot to mention, it is also adept at bypassing certain antivirus products, including Symantec (which it also disables) and Microsoft Security Essentials (at least as of two weeks ago).
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MattBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 11:06 AM
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11. That's what Knoppix with Clam AV bootable disks are for.
Seriously; if anyone has paid money for anti-virus software without a boot disk, they were ripped off.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 10:13 AM
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3. Thank you. I got hit with the Anti-Virus before, right at the END of
a crucial project--nasty, nasty stuff. People who create that are just evil and need to do hard time, IMHO.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 10:14 AM
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4. Agreed. At least the new one doesn't put up fake porn sites in IE (that can't be closed).
That's adding insult to injury.

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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 10:15 AM
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6. Good Grief Microsoft!!!
I don't know about Vista, but I've been able to contain these problems on my XP machines by using utilities from malwarebytes.

http://www.malwarebytes.org/

On those PCs, I let the one-year Norton or whatever expire. Shit slows down everything.

Of course I don't do any finance or enter personal information on a PC, ever.

PC owners: take nothing for granted, visit the Computers and Internet group often!!!

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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 10:16 AM
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7. PS: Back up important files and do NOT lose your original disks.
The restore disks and documentation that come with your PC are vital if you have to reload the OS and start from scratch, which is sometimes not a bad idea.
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Snarkoleptic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 05:37 PM
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25. I caught this bug on my XP computer last month.
The Malwarebytes anti-malware did the job for me.
I got the free verson from cnet.com.

This bug was a massive pain in the butt as it wouldn't let me use internet explorer to look for a solution.
It also ate up massive amounts of CPU power and almost constantly gave me phony pop-ups about supposed intrusions.
I ended up using the Firefox browser to download the fix and have had no trouble since.
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CherokeeDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 10:24 AM
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8. I had the Vista Security Malware pop up....
on my computer and looked at the remedies I could do and I didn't have confidence to fix it on my own...then after about three days of having issues, Norton Anti-virus took care of it and no problems since. I was lucky.

I didn't click on anything associated with the Vista scam, I recognized some of the things they listed as attacking my computer as things that Norton had already dealt with. Like I said, I was lucky.

Nasty little thing...
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 10:25 AM
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9. I found out the hard way the "X" is an active hot button, too
I still run XP so my malware was called "XP Guardian 2010." I knew right away it was a scam but made the mistake of thinking if I closed the pop-up box that would be the end of it. Silly me. I run Norton, so one of their techs was able to remove it but what a frakking pain. It took over EVERYTHING, including the ability to remove programs through the Control Panel (the list of programs doesn't show up, you see).

So, I've added to the following list of "nevers":

1. Never eat anything bigger than your head.
2. Never drink at a place called "Pop's"
3. Never eat at a place called "Mom's"
4. And never, never, ever click on a pop-up box. Use alt-F4 to close it instead.

This is what I wish for the bastards that created this and cost me $100: :nuke:
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 10:35 AM
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10. #1 is a rule from a Kliban cartoon - I think it was in "Luminous Animal".
That's been a standing rule in our house and all three of my daughters have known it since they were infants. The "Jumbo Mambo Mocha Sundae" came close when my youngest was six.

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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 11:09 AM
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12. Alt f-4 didn't work for me.
A coworker got this on his computer, and Alt-f4 would not close the pop-up. It's usually a good trick though.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 12:49 PM
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14. it's better to try and kill the process through task manager
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 01:46 PM
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15. That was what I ended up doing. n/t
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:41 AM
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28. Question: How do I close those damn ads that overlay a site?
You know the kind -- the screen is grayed over and the ad is on top. There's usually a "click here to skip this ad" link somewhere. I really don't trust ANYONE anymore so, how do I close those? Alt-F4 just closes the browser.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 12:26 PM
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13. I have a question.
I run XP with Firefox, NO Script and Avast! .
I have a pop up blocker, so never get a pop up.
Will that work to prevent this latest nasty lil bugger?
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 03:25 PM
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21. If you've got Javascript and Java disabled, you're probably safe (not positive)
A lot of sites won't work without Javascript and Java is often required as well. Still, I haven't found out exactly how it manages the infection so I can't say with certainty that it will avoid the problem.

As for pop up blockers, that's for browser pop ups, not operating system pop ups. Same word, different thing. These are no different than one that just appears on your screen to tell you some piece of software has updated itself to a new version.

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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 02:00 PM
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16. "Restore points" are a gawdsend.
However AVG-Free catches this virus before any damage can be done.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 02:21 PM
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18. This Virus Won't Let You Get To Restore Points
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 12:56 PM
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30. Problem with Restore Points is they can also get infected.
Case in point: I could not get rid of a nasty virus last month...did everything... IT KILLED MY XP (and no, repair was not an option).

I put in a new drive and did a new install with anti-virus and Firefox before connecting to the Internet. So I plug in my old drive via USB and did a AVG scan. Guess where that nasty was hiding?

System Restore has worked for me before but that has nothing to do with virus.




I am glad SR worked for you.:)
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 02:18 PM
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17. Quick question, how is the malware initially delivered?
Is it in the MS security update or are people clicking on those flashing things at the top of websites? Sorry to sound stupid, I'm still on XP, but my daughter has Vista and I'm concerned about her not getting the come-on onto her puter in the first place.
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Urban Prairie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 02:31 PM
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19. I believe that my neighbor got it on her XP OS through an email message.
She was using AOL and she had its "preview pane" enabled, bad idea, I disabled it. I believe that Outlook Express also still has its preview pane enabled by default as well, but I have not used OE in quite some time.
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 03:48 PM
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23. Ah, thank you. I use Eudora still, I love it. Anyway, preview window
if enabled beyond text would let the pop-up enable, huh?

One reason I set everything to income as text only. Then I get a link to an html page if I want to see the whole glory.

My daughter uses hotmail and a company server, so I'll warn her, as I believe she uses a preview window as well.

Thanks.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 03:21 PM
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20. There are a variety of ways but simply hitting a web site with infected scripts can do it.
You implicitly authorize it to do stuff to your machine simply by visiting. What gets me is that M$ would allow this IN THE FIRST PLACE! I mean come on, it changes the meaning of ".exe"!!! The real question is WHICH web site caused it. This little nasty camps out for a bit before making itself known and deletes all or part of the history so the user will probably only have the last few sites they visited in their head when it shows up and can't look back through the history to find the source.

E-mail is always a hazard if you click on an embedded link. Simply opening one shouldn't be a problem.

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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 03:52 PM
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24. Firefox and NoScript. Though once installed one has to get used
to if, when, where, and how to enable sites that one approves of. Basically I've just had to learn if I go to a site and clicks don't work I have to choose to enable certain scripts, then you have a list of scripts to choose from, so you can enable the entire page, just a video box, or any combination therein, and revocations of enabling requests can be made global. I have for example googlesyndication blocked globally, I never see a googlesyndication ad on any site, nor is it allowed to track me.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 05:43 PM
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26. And that's why I'll never use Google's Chrome browser
Even if they make extensions as functional as they are in Firefox, you can bet they will never allow their own ads/spyware content to be blocked. googlesyndication and google-analytics were the first things I blocked when I installed NoScript. Firefox was already faster than M$IE. Probably doubled in speed when I blocked that shit.
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:09 AM
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27. Yep I love it. Though on one forum I got accused of befriending
a Nazi because I have most all avatars and signature images blocked through AdBlock as soon as I start lurking, and had no idea that the fellow I was agreeing with had nazi stuff for avatar and signature. I guess that's good though, because it means I have to judge on content and with no avatars, it's easier to forget who and focus on the what.
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rickford66 Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 03:34 PM
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22. system restore
I've contracted this virus a couple times and it seemed impossible to kill. I have XP and the system restore worked fine. Do it in safe mode if it doesn't work normally.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:41 AM
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29. I just dealt with it on someone else's computer - Spybot S&D was able to
run although pretty much every other anti-malware I tried got blocked. I was able to remove pretty much everything - to the point where I could copy off files - but there was one virtumonde trojan remaining that I couldn't get rid of, and the computer was trashed to the point that a clean install seemed most time-effective...
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