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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 11:08 AM
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"a significant water line bursts on average every two minutes" in US

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/15/us/15water.html

Saving U.S. Water and Sewer Systems Would Be Costly


One recent morning, George S. Hawkins, a long-haired environmentalist who now leads one of the largest and most prominent water and sewer systems, trudged to a street corner here where water was gushing into the air.

A cold snap had ruptured a major pipe installed the same year the light bulb was invented. Homes near the fashionable Dupont Circle neighborhood were quickly going dry, and Mr. Hawkins, who had recently taken over the District of Columbia Water and Sewer Authority despite having no experience running a major utility, was responsible for fixing the problem.

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Today, a significant water line bursts on average every two minutes somewhere in the country, according to a New York Times analysis of Environmental Protection Agency data.

In Washington alone there is a pipe break every day, on average, and this weekend’s intense rains overwhelmed the city’s system, causing untreated sewage to flow into the Potomac and Anacostia Rivers.

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For decades, these systems — some built around the time of the Civil War — have been ignored by politicians and residents accustomed to paying almost nothing for water delivery and sewage removal. And so each year, hundreds of thousands of ruptures damage streets and homes and cause dangerous pollutants to seep into drinking water supplies.

(CIVIL WAR!!)

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But in many cities, residents have protested loudly when asked to pay more for water and sewer services. In Los Angeles, Indianapolis, Sacramento — and before Mr. Hawkins arrived, Washington — proposed rate increases have been scaled back or canceled after virulent ratepayer dissent.

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At a meeting with board members last month, Mr. Hawkins pitched his radical solution. Clad in an agency uniform — his name on the breast and creases indicating it had been recently unfolded for the first time — Mr. Hawkins suggested raising water rates for the average resident by almost 17 percent, to about $60 a month per household. Over the coming six years, that rate would rise above $100.

With that additional money, Mr. Hawkins argued, the city could replace all of its pipes in 100 years. The previous budget would have replaced them in three centuries.

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“There’s a lot of evidence that people are getting sick,” he added. “But because everything is out of sight, no one really understands how bad things have become.”
*****

(stars are mine)

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“This is the fight of our lifetimes,” he added. “Water is tied into everything we should care about.
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I wouldn't want to get pregnant now - what would be the future of the child?


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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 11:16 AM
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1. maybe if we did`t have two wars and a whole army off the books...
http://costofwar.com/ over 4 billion drained from DC. that`s the official number


i feel sorry for my kids and grandkids in the future of this country. i hope the country will finally grow up.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 11:18 AM
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2. Our infrastructure is very old
And no one seems interested in upgrading anything but cable and cell phone systems (entertainment items).

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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 11:40 AM
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6. Yep, so old most people don't remember it had to be built (paid for)
and maintained. It's like people think it all just magically appeared and should be magically maintained.
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hex29a Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 11:19 AM
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3. That's just one piece of our crumbling infrastructure. Bridges are rotting away faster than
they can be patched up and many roads are in the same shape. The electric grid also is running on borrowed time and really good luck.
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dragonlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 11:28 AM
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5. And dams--that is scary n.t
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 11:20 AM
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4. There was a tv program about this on PBS I saw awhile back and it was very good
Edited on Wed Mar-17-10 11:24 AM by elocs
and scary. Unfortunately, for most people it is out of sight, out of mind until something goes wrong.

On edit: I think this might be the one: http://www.pbs.org/wnet/blueprintamerica/reports/liquid-assets-the-story-of-our-water-infrastructure/86/

America’s aging water infrastructure systems–some in the ground for more than 100 years–are neglected and in dire need of national and local attention.

Though largely out of sight and out of mind, these drinking water, wastewater and stormwater systems provide the basis for public health and safety, economic prosperity, and quality of life.

Liquid Assets: The Story of Our Water Infrastructure explores the looming crisis underneath our feet and how ten cities and towns (Atlanta, Boston, Herminie, PA, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Milwaukee, New York City, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Washington, D.C.) are trying to meet the challenges. While the public takes system reliability for granted, cities must find the funds to rebuild eroding systems, separate sewer and stormwater flows, and protect the watershed. Industry and environmental experts, government officials, front-line water workers and citizens reveal how their communities are working to ensure the viability of water infrastructure assets.

The 90-minute documentary, produced by Penn State Public Broadcasting (WPSU), will be available nationwide to all public broadcasting stations beginning October 1, 2008.

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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 12:03 PM
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7. But, but, it's FAR more important to make sure the wealthiest among us aren't
forced to pay the same overall tax rates that the Little People pay. They are better humans, so they need to pay less.

:sarcasm:
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 12:26 PM
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8. There's the employment solution - that Obama has made clear we aren't going to get.
Our infrastructure is collapsing on itself. Meanwhile bankers get insane bonuses with taxpayer money. It's sickening.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 12:39 PM
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10. Can you imagine just how much new pipe could be laid, and how many
workers employed, with just ONE of those 10 million dollar bonuses?
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 12:38 PM
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9. Yep. Thirty years of ignoring the needs of this country, thanks to that prick Reagan
and every repulsive repuke since, is creating a crisis. But until another bridge falls and kills more people, no one is paying attention.

And even that didn't change things. That asshole fucker Pawlenty was responsible for that bridge failure because of his asinine and stupid cuts to the Minnesota Department of Transportation. And his approval ratings went UP after the bridge fell.

This country is too full of stupid people to fix.
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Riftaxe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 02:26 PM
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11. I'm all for Reagan bashing, but when...
does local infrastructure maintenance become a federal responsibility?
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 02:28 PM
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12. Grant money has always played a huge role in local infrastructure. nt
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 11:16 AM
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13. if you gamble on stocks - pipes of any kind should be going up
nt
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