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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 11:17 PM
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GHW Bush began getting the educators out of education....his successors followed suit.
When he called a summit in 1989, he left out educators. Left out the ones who know the most about how to truly educate and promote learning. They silenced a report that proved their condemnations of public schools were not true.

From Edutopia 2007:

Getting Educators Out of Education

In 1989, Bush convened his education summit at the University of Virginia. Astonishingly, no teachers, professional educators, cognitive scientists, or learning experts were invited. The group that met to shape the future of American education consisted entirely of state governors. Education was too important, it seemed, to leave to educators.

School reform, as formulated by the summit, moved so forcefully onto the nation's political agenda that, in the 1992 presidential campaign, Bill Clinton had to promise to outtough Bush on education. As president, Clinton steered through Congress a bill called Goals 2000 that largely co-opted the policies that came out of the 1989 Bush summit.

After the 2000 election, George W. Bush dubbed himself America's "educator in chief," and until terrorism hijacked the national agenda, he was staking his presidency on a school-reform package known as the No Child Left Behind Act, a bill that -- as every teacher knows -- dominates the course of public education in America today.


President Obama of course is not mentioned in the this article from 2007, but he is furthering these policies.

These folks had no intention of "improving" schools. They intended to "reform" them. That is where the situation stands today.

Reform, Not Improve

Bush Sr. launched the idea of a national education policy shaped at the federal level by politicians. Clinton sealed it, and our current president built on this foundation by introducing a punitive model for enforcing national goals. Earlier education activists had thought to achieve outcomes through targeted spending on the theory that where funding flows, school improvement flourishes. The new strategy hopes to achieve outcomes through targeted budget cutting -- on the theory that withholding money from failed programs forces them to shape up.

Which approach will actually improve education? Here, I think, language can lead us astray. In everyday life, we use reform and improve as synonyms (think: "reformed sinner"), so when we hear "school reform," we think "school improvement." Actually, reform means nothing more than "alter the form of." Whether a particular alteration is an improvement depends on what is altered and who's doing the judging. Different people will have different opinions. Every proposed change, therefore, calls for discussion.


They cut the educators out of formulating policy. Then they silenced a report that could have turned the nation in another direction on schools.

1994: Project Censorship The Sandia Report On Education. Showed schools improving. Not published.

SYNOPSIS: One of the most thorough investigations into public education did not produce the expected results and instead, ended up being censored.
When state governors and President George Bush set national education goals after the 1989 education summit, the administration charged Sandia National Laboratories, a scientific research organization, with investigating the state of public education.

In 1991, Sandia presented its first findings to the U.S. Department of Education and the National Science Foundation. While the response from these government agencies should have been one of some celebration, instead it was one of silence -- a silence compounded by the national media. The results did not reveal a seriously deficient educational system in dire need of profound changes such as a nationwide voucher program. And the report was suppressed.

..."Briefly, the Sandia Report did find the following: on nearly every measure employed in the survey, a steady or slightly improving trend was identified in public education. Overall, the high school completion rate in the U.S. at 85 percent ranks as one of the highest in the world. The dropout rate is inflated by a growing immigrant school population. SAT results often reported as falling do so not because of decreasing student performance but because of increased participation from students in the lower percentiles, a factor not always found when comparing results to other countries. One quarter of young people will achieve a bachelor's degree. Spending on education, often characterized as out of control, has risen by 30 percent but this has gone into special education programs, not the "regular" classroom.


For further reading, here is more about the Sandia report that was censored before it could send our country in better direction with education.


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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 11:19 PM
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1. Bill Clinton is an honorary Bush
I don't know why some adore him here.

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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 12:26 PM
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8. Yep. Carter, Clinton and now Obama. These men ARE NOT................
..............Democrats in the true working/middle class Democratic tradition. They are conservadems, a "hair" better than a Republican. I must say that Carter has done a lot of humanitarian things since he left the Presidency and I NOW have a lot of respect for him. Clinton, no and Obama is daily losing my respect.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 11:20 PM
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2. Republicans want to kill education so that "vouchers" will be cried for by the public
to enrich the republican owned schools, and also because the Republicans fear actual knowledge and an educated populace.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 09:34 AM
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6. But...
this time it is not just the Republicans.
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 12:35 PM
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9. First it'll be "Texas textbooks" and next they'll be teaching that...........
............the KKK was a group of patriotic citizens protesting non-violently. At this rate we won't have to worry about China passing us in education of it's citizens, we'll have to worry about Sudan surpassing us.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 11:22 PM
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3. The GOP want to privatize education - period
when one compares the USA with the rest of the world in terms of education it doesn't rank very highly.

The USA fails to prepare it's new teachers for the job. It expects teachers to be like magicians.

The USA needs to look to other countries to see where it is going wrong.

Education slike healthcare shouldn't be used for profit.
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 12:49 PM
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10. There is a long list of shit that needs to be fixed in this country...............
..........FDR repaired a lot that up to that time was wrong with this country. You will never see another President like him mainly because he was elected 4 times and served almost 14 yrs. And the presidents since him (Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, even Nixon's domestic policies) have either been ok (Eisenhower), great (LBJ), or really shitty (Bush jr & Nixon). The Dems have turned their backs on the people they used to really represent and now serve money interests just like the Republicans.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 11:32 PM
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4. Good thing Neil Bush was able to sell NOLA a whole lot of educ software after Katrina
His mother gave NOLA the money to buy it.

Yup, Babs' "gift" was tax-deductible and restricted in its use.

I can still smell this one, folks.


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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 12:51 AM
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5. Ignite....quite a program.
:rofl:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:46 AM
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7. From the late Gerald Bracey at Huff Post....how the Sandia findings were squelched.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gerald-bracey/righting-wrongs_b_75189.html

"Almost precisely 17 years ago, Lee Bray, the Sandia vice president who had overseen the analysis flew up to Denver to show me the 156 page report. I had written an Education Week commentary arguing that the SAT decline had been much smaller than people thought (in fact, I was only riffing off the College Board's own panel which had produced On Further Examination). Bray said he had a lot of data on other indicators that corroborated my conclusions. He did.

Bob Huelskamp, one of the three engineers who authored the report returned some three months later to present it to me and some administrators in the Cherry Creek School District. I said we should take all of the data I had collected (substantially more by then than when I wrote the SAT piece) and the Sandia data and publish them all in one place. Huelskamp said, "We can't. We've got internal political problems."

I think it is inherent among engineers to practice understatement. What had actually happened was that the Sandia group had gone to Washington and presented the report to department of energy and department of education staff and some Congressmen. At the end, David Kearns, former CEO of Xerox and then Deputy Secretary of Education said, "You bury this or I'll bury you." Ravitch has denied Kearns said this. Huelskamp has affirmed it. An article in Education Week said only that "administration officials, particularly Mr. Kearns, reacted angrily at the meeting." The article also contained allegations of suppression and denials of such ("Report Questioning 'Crisis' in Education Triggers an Uproar," October 9, 1991).

The engineers did get buried, being forbidden at one point to leave New Mexico to talk about their findings. "
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 07:06 PM
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11. I am sick of the last 5 ring wing presidents........
Obama included......privatize the shit out of everything and stuff money down corporations throats, while destroying the America I grew up in. I am just sick of it.
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 08:25 PM
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12. No Crony Left Behind
n/t
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jeremyfive Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 10:14 AM
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13. IS THE BUSH FAMILY LEARNING DISABLED?
After all, POTATOE Dan Quayle was Papa's VP. Jeb is certainly no Einstein. And then there is Dubya--a walking testiment to the downside of ivy league "education". But don't "misunderscomprestand my meanin'".

This is a fundamentally stupid bunch. Dumb luck will only take a family so far.
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