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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 03:36 AM
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hypothetical education question..
i got a question for you, answer honestly if every child could be taught online by just one teacher per grade across america from home, and achieve better results than we get now would you support giving all the kids a laptop and free broadband if it meant we close every school across america and we only needed say 15 teachers. of course its totally hypothetical as it will never happen, but are teh chioldren the most important thing or the system..
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Go2Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 03:44 AM
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1. The problem is you won't achieve "better results". You just don't get it vadawg
Edited on Fri Mar-19-10 03:45 AM by Go2Peace
We have had private schools before. Historically that has been the way schools were done. Public schooling works, the problem is that our systems are all in disrepair from the illogical attacks on every facet of society. The answer is not to go back to dark age methodologies. It's to work back to a functioning society.
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 03:48 AM
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2. whos talking about private schools, and notice the word hypothetical
it seems to me that for a lot of posters the most important thing is the system and not the pupils in the system, its more about the teachers than the kids, so give me an honest answer, if we could give education via nothing but the web and achieve better results would you be for gettig rid of all schools both private and public.
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Go2Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 03:52 AM
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3. that's like saying if you could live without eating and be healthy what.......
It's impossible to answer because the hypothetical is an illusion. It would never happen, and if it did it would not give the results you think it could. What are you drinking tonight lol?
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 03:55 AM
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4. why is it impossible to answer, say a company brought out a pill that increased your IQ 100 points
would you take it, yes or no, see thats another hypothetical and im sure you can answer that, or what about a vaccine for cancer would you take that. Do you really believe that in the far future we will still be learning the same way we are today? so why not answer the question, suspend belief if you have to..
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 04:09 AM
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6. let's see -- what if clowns from another galaxy came
down from the sky & taught us all how to be happy by putting us in clown school.

would you sign on to that?

suspend disbelief, just for a moment. answer the question, now -- what do you say, yes or no?
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 04:12 AM
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8. yes i would, if it happened and it made us happy, see its not hard to answer a hypothetical
unless you cant answer it honestly,
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 04:08 AM
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5. If that were the case? Sure.
The children are more important than the system.

However, that could never, ever be the case. And I can't imagine that anyone would want it to be.
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 04:11 AM
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7. i imagine 100 years ago we never thought we would not use slates
thats why its a hypothetical, who knows what the future holds, who would have guessed that you could learn a new language aloong with 10,000 other people from a disk rather than needing a teacher.
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 04:38 AM
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9. The teaching tools are not the issue here.
Full disclosure: I am not an accredited teacher. However, I did spend 2 years teaching in local public schools through an Americorps program.

My kids were the students who needed extra help: English language learners, high-transiency populations, kids without an IEP, emotionally disturbed kids, refugee children...you might get the gist. And the reality in my schools was that the need for extra help always outstripped the ability to provide that help.

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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 04:41 AM
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10. yup i understand that, but all im doing is a hypothetical, who knows how we will be teaching in 50
years even, my point is that for some people education is not about the pupils and giving them the tools to succeed, its about protecting the system and the teachers, my point is i would fire every teacher if it meant that the standard of education improved, same as i would fire every doctor if it meant no more illness, and id happily retire today if there was no more crime, its just a hypothetical question that for some reason the poster cant answer..
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 04:52 AM
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11. What other posters say isn't my concern.
Simply put, my experience is that any and every improvement to the educational system could not address the needs of all students. Ever.

I don't really understand what you're trying to get to with this post, but the truth is that the needs of the students can't be met with a change in methodology. Kids need us and they need us badly.

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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 07:50 AM
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12. And learning how to live in society with other people???
While a person may learn their math easier if in an isolated environment, it does not do anything to help society. People/children need to learn how to get along with others..They do that by getting along with others..
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 08:13 AM
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13. You've just turned Education into Indoctrination
One message for all, maybe Fox might win the contract for that one, but thanks for playing.
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