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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 11:12 AM
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What would the wing nuts be saying if there were 45,000 American deaths annually from terrorism?
http://harvardscience.harvard.edu/medicine-health/articles/new-study-finds-45000-deaths-annually-linked-lack-health-coverage

New study finds 45,000 deaths annually linked to lack of health coverage

Uninsured, working-age Americans have 40 percent higher death risk than privately insured counterparts


September 17, 2009
David Cecere
Cambridge Health Alliance

Nearly 45,000 annual deaths are associated with lack of health insurance, according to a new study published online today by the American Journal of Public Health. That figure is about two and a half times higher than an estimate from the Institute of Medicine (IOM) in 2002.

The study, conducted at Harvard Medical School and Cambridge Health Alliance, found that uninsured, working-age Americans have a 40 percent higher risk of death than their privately insured counterparts, up from a 25 percent excess death rate found in 1993.

“The uninsured have a higher risk of death when compared to the privately insured, even after taking into account socioeconomics, health behaviors, and baseline health,” said lead author Andrew Wilper, M.D., who currently teaches at the University of Washington School of Medicine. “We doctors have many new ways to prevent deaths from hypertension, diabetes, and heart disease — but only if patients can get into our offices and afford their medications.”

The study, which analyzed data from national surveys carried out by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), assessed death rates after taking into account education, income, and many other factors, including smoking, drinking, and obesity. It estimated that lack of health insurance causes 44,789 excess deaths annually.

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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 11:16 AM
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1. "It's ALL Obama's fault."
Well, that's what they would say.

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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 11:18 AM
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2. Wing nuts will say that these 45,000 people choose to die...
because they are too lazy to make enough money to buy health insurance.

Some people, not Republicans, will say that your are using blatant hyperbole with that statement and trying to smear them form taking a principled stsand in opposition to the bill and principled demand to say no to the bill.

I've been using the 45,000 number since Olberman first said it, and have been told just those things in different ways many times.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 11:19 AM
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3. They don't care if 'Murikins die as long as it's not the Ay-rabs doing the killing.
:eyes:
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 11:21 AM
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4. There are 45,000 deaths a year from terrorism
plus many more....from economic terrorism :(
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 11:23 AM
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5. Those deaths aren't linked to health COVERAGE, they're linked to lack of health CARE
If you need a further explanation then just watch the documentary "SiCKO".
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 12:25 PM
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8. Exactly. The missing stat is the tens of thousands who die of preventable
illnesses DESPITE having insurance, because they can't afford the treatments anyway.

Coverage helps, but is NOT a panacea. What is lacking is health CARE.
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 11:27 AM
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6. They would say, terrorists are too random in their targets.
The beauty of the status quo, is that it kills the ill and poor, mostly minorities, those guys that will be the majority shortly.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 11:34 AM
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7. why not start to call it terrorism
terrorism by the insurance companies who deny treatment to customers whose money they may have been happily accepting for years
and
terrorism by America's "christian" society against those who Christ repeatedly preached we should be helping

The gratuitous christian reference is also to shame the self-declared christians who happily ignore his teachings
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 12:28 PM
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9. Social terrorists!
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