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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 05:44 PM
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Public Option Lives
Source: TalkingPointsMemo

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid sent a letter Thursday alerting two senators that he plans to urge a vote on the public option in the “coming months.” Reid wrote to Sen. Bernie Sanders and Sen. Jeff Merkley that he was “disappointed” the legislation did not make it in and that he “will work to ensure that we are able to vote on the public option in the coming months.” Earlier in the day Friday, Rep. Stephen Lynch said that President Obama told him he couldn’t push for the public option this year, but might try again in the year to come. In a letter written to Bernie Sanders and Jeff Merkley Reid wrote "Nevertheless, like you, I remain committed to pursuing the public option. While I believe that the legislation we are considering does much to provide affordable coverage to millions of Americans and curb insurance company abuses, I also believe that the public option would provide additional competition to make insurance even more affordable. As we have discussed, I will work to ensure that we are able to vote on the public option in the coming months."

Read more: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/03/reid-ill-try-again-for-a-public-option-this-year.php
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 05:52 PM
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1. Fool that I am on this subject, I hope there is some small grain of truth to it.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 05:53 PM
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2. just a little more ....you're getting closer .......
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 05:57 PM
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3. Need to change that carrot to a check made out to a Congress-critter's campaign fund.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 06:06 PM
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4. True!
I didnt think of that.
:thumbsup:
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groundloop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 06:10 PM
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5. No way to get it past the fillibuster stage w/ 60 votes, HOWEVER ...
Remember what Harry said a couple of weeks ago, that the Senate rules concerning fillibusters were going to change at the start of the next session. My guess is that he's referring to the possibility of it getting passed under new rules (where Joe Lieberman's temper tantrums over Medicare expansion won't hold the entire country hostage anymore). (Of course I could just be seeing the world through rose colored glasses, I'll believe this when I see it).


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Grand Taurean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 06:16 PM
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6. Politically speaking, passing the public option in Septemberq
may work to our advantage. A highly popular policy becoming law in the run up to an election is always a good thing.
Recall what Andy Card said about never introducing a new product before Labor Day?
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Luciferous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 06:54 PM
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7. Yeah, I'm betting it won't happen.
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 07:03 PM
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8. I knew this would happen. n/t
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 07:03 PM
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9. Reid will urge a vote on the Public Option when Paris Hilton gets her virginity back
Once this is passes as is there will suddenly be something MORE IMPORTANT -- like bailing out the banks AGAIN.

The debate over this bill interrupted the ciphoning off of this country's wealth to the wealthy.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 07:13 PM
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10. A pathetic shell game that further demostrates the cynicism and complicity of the party "leadership.
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Shipwack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 07:29 PM
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11. Wow... A strongly worded letter from Reid!
I'm not surprised; he gets a lot of practice writing them.

We'll see, but I'll believe it when it happens.
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 08:17 PM
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12. it's good to see....
....old harry is still keeping his powder dry....

"...I remain committed to pursuing the public option."

....and I remain committed to calling you a phoney and a liar....
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 08:25 PM
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13. Public option lives. ...So does Tinkerbell.
:eyes: Yeah. Right.
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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 09:13 PM
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14. LOL
OMMFG
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 09:33 PM
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15. I won't hold my breath. eom
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 09:37 PM
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16. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
Edited on Fri Mar-19-10 09:37 PM by Individualist
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 12:01 PM
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17. Industry interests are not in their "twilight"
By Glenn Greenwald
The Washington Post's Ezra Klein has an amazing post in which he trumpets what he calls the "Twilight of the Interest Groups" reflected by likely passage of the health care bill (h/t). Why are Interest Groups -- once so powerful in Washington -- now banished to their "twilight"? Because, says Ezra, "the Obama administration succeeded at neutralizing every single industry." If, by "neutralizing," Ezra means "bribing and accommodating them to such an extreme degree that they ended up affirmatively supporting a bill that lavishes them with massive benefits," then he's absolutely right. He himself notes what he calls the "remarkable level of industry consensus" in support of the bill:


Pharma supports the bill. Insurers are incoherent on it, but there's not a ferocious and united campaign to kill the proposal. The American Medical Association has endorsed the Senate bill. The hospitals have endorsed the bill. Labor has endorsed the bill. The business community is split, with larger employers holding their fire.


Indeed, PhRMA is so in favor of this bill that, over the last week, they've spent $6 million on an ad campaign aimed at undecided House Democrats to try to pressure them to vote for the bill. And while the most hackish Obama loyalists (echoing the administration) have been claiming that the health insurance industry is vehemently opposed to and working to defeat this bill, Ezra commendably acknowledges the reality that they have done little in that regard (Marcia Angell -- Professor at Harvard Medical School and the former editor of The New England Journal of Medicine -- said a few weeks ago of the health insurance industry: "What they're fighting for is the individual mandate. And if they get that mandate , if everyone does have to buy their commercial products, then they're going to be extremely happy with it").


Now, if someone wants to argue (as Kevin Drum has) that sleazily bribing these industry interests with secret deals was a necessary evil -- a shrewd, pragmatic way to get a health care bill passed, without which it could not have happened -- that's one thing. I think that's debatable -- after all, the central promise of the Obama campaign was that it would circumvent those factions by appealing directly to the armies of citizen-supporters they had lined up -- but at least that's an honest, rational argument. Bribing these industries was ugly and sleazy but necessary.

But to pretend that this bill represents the "Twilight of the Interest Groups," that special interests have been "neutralized," that this bill is some sort of great victory over the health insurance and drug industries, is just hagiography and propaganda. Being able to force the Government to bribe and accommodate you is not a reflection of your powerlessness; quite the opposite. Everyone would love to be forced into a "twilight" like that. It's one thing for the Obama administration and the DNC to issue self-serving claims like this (we've stood up to the insurance and drug companies!), but those who hold themselves out as commentators ought to keep their feet on their ground.

http://www.salon.com/news/healthcare_reform/index.html?story=/opinion/greenwald/2010/03/20/health_care
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