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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 08:12 PM
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If the NCAA tournament was decided by a team's academic performance . . .
If the NCAA tournament was decided by a team's academic performance the Jayhawks would already be the champions according to InsideHigherEd.com! http://bit.ly/doJjji



http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2010/03/15/ncaa
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 08:13 PM
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1. well
thankfully they didn't decide our College Bowl matches on athletic ability.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 08:17 PM
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2. even if the % graduated is higher -
there's no way in HELL that Kansas has a BETTER EDUCATION that DUKE!! I mean, really, do you honestly believe a degree from Kansas is as "good" as one from DUKE?

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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 08:34 PM
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5. I don't know about that.
I am typing this from the shadow of the Duke chapel and over the past 20 years have met/become acquainted with a lot of students. With a few notable exceptions they are mostly kids from wealthy families that are best at being aggressive. Not smart. Not educated. Just aggressive. They seem to spend more time harassing professors, complaining if much is expected of them and trying to get out of doing any meaningful research/writing/studying.

JFTR - I have several family members over four generations that are KU grads.

So YES - I think a KU education is possibly as good or better than Duke. However, you won't leave school with the same opportunity for social power networking. In other words, no wall street job so less money.

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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 08:52 PM
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7. oh puhleeze
there's no way in hell a degree from "Kansas" can be considered in the same ballpark as a degree with "DUKE". they're miles apart and Duke carries prestige, not so much Kansas. Sorry. You're individual "stories" not withstanding.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 09:17 PM
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12. KU is an excellent school with a great reputation
They gave me a diploma :)
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 09:21 PM
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14. I do believe you can get as good of an education at Kansas as you can at Duke.
The degree from Duke is better, but I'm not convinced the education is.

Prestige =/= Education.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 09:28 PM
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17. Kansas has a player with a 3.9
That helps on this ranking.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 09:43 PM
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19. Totally agree. nt
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 08:18 PM
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3. Yea, that says a lot. You've got Texas in the Final Four.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 08:20 PM
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4. Their players must be good students then
:)
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 08:54 PM
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8. Never mind.
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kywildcat Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 08:42 PM
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6. I think Sr. Rose at Xavier would have something to say
Edited on Fri Mar-19-10 08:43 PM by kywildcat
about where Xavier lands on the above list. Xavier has one of the highest student athlete graduation rates in college-thanks to her. Someone can say they went to Duke, but if they don't have the paper showing they stuck it out, graduated and participated in a world class athletic program-then all of the schools listed above are training grounds for the pro's-nothing more.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/16/sports/ncaabasketball/16nun.html?scp=1&sq=Xavier&st=cse

edit for spelling
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 09:15 PM
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10. It's a rating of the current players' grades
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 08:55 PM
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9. How does Cornell lose to Texas?
Or anyone else?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 09:16 PM
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11. Their players have lower GPAs
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 09:19 PM
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13. Interesting but Baylor and BYU are captive religious schools that

have high graduation rates but cannot be seriously considered honest halls of scholarship.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 09:27 PM
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15. It's a ranking of the GPAs of the athletes
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Ocracoker16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 09:28 PM
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16. this really doesn't make much sense
Part of the problem is that you are not explaining what academic performance means in the context of this study. APR is based on keeping players elgible. I think that it is important to keep student athletes in school. However, I don't think that is the best indicator of academic excellence. How do you account for schools that have more rigorous academic programs making staying elgible more challenging. There are plenty of schools that make a big effort to keep kids elgible by putting them in the most basic of classes. Some schools have such a good reputation based on their athletic programs that professors feel like they can't flunk them so they just give them D's. There have been instances of coaches approaching professors and telling them that an F is not ok and they better give a D.

Statistics can be very misleading if they are not interpreted correctly. Using a statistic that is very specific to make a more generalized conclusion is irresponsible.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 09:30 PM
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18. You make excellent points
But since my alma mater is going to win it all anyway, . . .

LOL
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kywildcat Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 06:23 AM
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20. proud2blibKansan-I always look forward
Edited on Sat Mar-20-10 06:24 AM by kywildcat
to your posts-but I have to say-Kentucky might have something to say about this one.
:hug:

edit to add a hug in the name of college sports rivalry.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 07:55 AM
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21. LOL
Should be exciting games the next few weeks.
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