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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 09:53 PM
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NJ gov Christie cuts 820 million from public schools, attacks unions, praises charters.
Yet the same progress will be expected from the public school sector in spite of the 820 million in cuts.

He is not cutting funds for charters, he says they already pay enough. I would love to know what he means by that because charter schools are publicly funded and privately run. His words to the charter school group are appalling in their contempt for public schools and unions.

N.J. Gov. Chris Christie leaves charter school budget untouched


Noah K. Murray/The Star LedgerNew Jersey Gov. Chris Christie speaks at annual Charter School Association conference, held at the Ocean Place Hotel.

Gov. Chris Christie renewed his support for charter schools today, telling a crowd of educators they can expect to see more charter schools opening next year despite the state’s fiscal woes. Christie said charter schools play a crucial role in proving districts don’t need to be heavily subsidized by the state to provide quality education for their students.

In his address to the annual conference of the New Jersey Charter Schools Association in Long Branch, Christie said he largely left the funding for charter schools untouched when he introduced his budget on Tuesday.


Then he called on the unions to sacrifice so charter schools could be untouched.

"We will do many good things for charters schools. In fact, I’ve held charter schools harmless in this budget because you already pay enough," he told more than 250 charter school educators. "There are going to be more charter schools a year from now than there are today."

Two days after introducing a budget that cut $820 million in education aid, the governor came out swinging against teachers unions he said have been flush with cash yet are still demanding raises for their members while private sector employees endure pay cuts or layoffs. He called on the unions to give back or forestall raises granted in new contracts and enlisted the help of charter schools in demonstrating quality education does not have to drain a municipal or state budget.


Wait until you read the reason he wants unions and public schools to sacrifice. It is almost contemptuous of them.

"You are the masters of doing more with less because you have been consistently underfunded by the statute that was passed to establish you," Christie said. To help keep down the cost of education, Christie said, public school teachers should forego their raises, contribute to the cost of their health care and contribute a market-based share of their pension.


Kind of surprising that with all of the Christie love for free market charter schools that NJ was not chosen as a finalist for Arne's money.

The finalists are: Colorado, Delaware, the District, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Kentucky, Louisiana, Massachusetts, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina and Tennessee.

..."These states are an example for the country of what is possible when adults come together to do the right thing for children," Education Secretary Arne Duncan said in a statement. "Everyone that applied for Race to the Top is charting a path for education reform in America."


He wants NJ public school teachers to give up their raises and donate them to the free market system of schools.

That is an absolutely arrogant and insulting thing to say.

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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 09:57 PM
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1. Seems the majority in NJ got what they wanted...A right wing asshole in charge.
I thought Arnie was pathetic.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 04:11 PM
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44. Yep I live in NJ and he's a MOTHER FUCKER
he gave a tax cut to people making 400,000 and more
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montanacowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 09:59 PM
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2. How long will the people of NJ
put up with this pig? Can they get rid of him? My God, how did they vote for this pos.
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njlib Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 10:32 PM
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14. He's disgusting!
There's already some chatter on the nj.com message boards about a recall. The depressing thing is that so many that comment on each story are supporting him. I'm guessing that 6 months from now, when these morans realize what these cuts mean and personally feel the effects, they won't be so supportive. As of now, they're so busy attacking the unions, they're ignoring the tax breaks for people earning $400K/year and his doing away with the property tax rebates. Those checks always came in VERY handy and not getting them is going to suck!

I voted for Corzine and encouraged everyone I knew to vote for him, but the overwhelming response I got was "It's not a presidential election". I tried to tell them that the governor is the "president" of the state and it would be like having Bush run NJ, but most people just couldn't be bothered and now we're ALL going to have to pay...literally!
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 10:32 PM
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15. We all shoot ourselves in the foot once or twice.
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 09:39 AM
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65. "we've" been shooting ourselves in the foot for 40 fucking years.............
.........It's about time we get back to the core beliefs & values of the Democratic Party and begin to kick ass and repair the goddamn damage.
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 10:36 AM
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29. what makes you think we're putting up with him?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 10:52 AM
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30. Thanks for sharing those links.
It gives hope that people are getting mad and fighting back.

:hi:
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 11:51 AM
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33. we actually may try to recall him
but it won't be until after November. The teabaggers were successful in getting the courts to allow a recall petition of Menendez (most likely due to his last name) and if they can do it so can we.
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 01:56 PM
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35. Heh .....
I'd be tempted to ask this bozo if he is a product of PUBLIC School, CHARTER School, or NO School whatsoever! :dunce:
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 04:39 PM
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48. he sends his own kids to private school
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 02:42 PM
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68. THAT speaks volumes, don't it???
What an ass-hat.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 04:08 PM
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43. EXCELLENT!!!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 04:00 PM
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42. They will all live to regret having him for their governor.
It always amazes me how people complain about taxes, want them cut to the minimum....and STILL WANT ALL THE SERVICES!!

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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 04:46 PM
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52. Did you see Christie's reasoning for letting the wealthy off?
Edited on Sat Mar-20-10 04:47 PM by mvd
Boy, these people are out of touch. He said that the wealthy can't AFFORD to live in NJ. :crazy: How about the poor who can't afford the cuts to programs helping the needy?
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 09:59 PM
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3. First time I've seen an actual picture of him.
I assume this will be his last term?
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 06:49 PM
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60. i hope his last and only term
the New Jersey Democrats have a rockstar waiting in the wings assuming he wins his re-election this May and is ready to run for governor in 2013. Should he run he wipes the floor with Chris Christie
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 10:00 PM
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4. The Wingnuts were pissed off Corzine was cutting their property tax rebates out
Edited on Fri Mar-19-10 10:03 PM by DainBramaged
so they voted this asshole in thinking he'd keep them. Uh no, he eliminated them too. His contentious speech constantly referring to 'Union bosses" in the State is only going to make his job difficult. The still Democratic legislature is going to do to him what the Pukes are doing to Obama. Oh yeah, and he is filling State positions with hs cronies from the Prosecutors office, people with NO experience running a government.

I can see the corruption and attempts at 'private sector' takeovers down the road.
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Grand Taurean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 10:03 PM
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7. I would love to trade the national Democrats for the
Edited on Fri Mar-19-10 10:05 PM by Grand Taurean
NJ Democrats. The NJ Democrats are doing more to Christie than the Rethugs are doing to Obama(because the Dems have strong majorities).
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njlib Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 10:36 PM
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16. He's apparently also talking
about privatizing the toll roads. It's going to be a nightmare all around.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 10:00 PM
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5. Please remember this man if you are sitting out the November elections -
he IS the future of the USA if the GOP wins this fall, and he is just getting started.

Watch him carefully.


mark
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 02:02 AM
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24. I think you need to read up on this Administration's education policies
eom
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 04:37 AM
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25. Please feel free to explore more of this gentleman's budget proposals -
it is not all about education-he is against unions, against working people, against social programs of all types, and he is just beginnikng.

You can piss and moan about the Dems all you like - the GOP is that much worse, and if you are not voting Democratic, you might as well be a republican.
I hope you enjoy their company.

mark
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 09:41 AM
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26. GOP and Democratic educational goals are exactly the same.
Exactly. Our party is working to break teachers' union and is privatizing education.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 01:58 PM
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36. Thank you
We need to educate our Democrats.
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 02:00 PM
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37. You NAILED it!
I can not believe the CRAP I'm hearing from THIS White House. They've either got fat wallets or short memories. :grr:
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 12:45 PM
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34. You are correct that Christie is a GOP extremist
Unfortunately, Obama has gone out of his way to become a "nicer" version of the Chris Christies. Doesn't mean that we should stop supporting Democrats -- but that's no thanks to Obama and the other "New" Democrats.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 02:26 PM
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39. But he's for tax cuts
for the wealthy because they create jobs-------------------in India.
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tilsammans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 11:12 AM
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31. Agree. All the bums we thought we threw out . . .
. . . they'll be back, big time. :grr:
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Grand Taurean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 10:01 PM
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6. But, But, But, Corzine was "B-A-D"!
Corzine didn't do this or that, Corzine blah, blah, blah!
Corzine did more than his share of heavy lifting, and the Democrats stayed home. Happy now?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 10:06 PM
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8. I tend to agree with you. It's a shame.
Hubby grew up and lived in NJ for years and years. He hates to hear about things like that.
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Grand Taurean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 10:09 PM
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9. I live in PA.
So I followed this election closely. TV/Radio carried their commercials.
Even though Hutu 101.5 was doing everything to turn the middle of the state against Corzine, he managed to come from 25% behind and lose by 3 points.
The Democrats did not come out to vote. Rethugs won many municipal elections in Connecticut and Westchester County NY too.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 10:46 PM
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18. Corzine's fortunes were tied to Wall Street's anchor.
Bailout backlash has and will continue to hurt the corporatist Dems who see our government as little more than a means to increase personal wealth through acts of crony corporate welfare. So long as Democrats continue to run DLC candidates like Corzine and Coakley, we will lose.
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Grand Taurean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 12:45 AM
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22. Corzine and Coakley are NOT DLCer's.
On social matters they are rather liberal.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 04:13 PM
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46. But, but, but... you mean people don't seem to respond to electoral black mail like they used to?
... weird, I know.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 10:14 PM
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10. Sounds like he's bucking for a Cabinet post
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 10:25 PM
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13. In this Administration,
he'd fit right in.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 10:21 PM
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11. lol he's been getting advice from arne duncan and the big O nt
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 10:23 PM
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12. Indeed he has.
And that's a shame.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 10:41 PM
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17. People should pay attention since this will be the Democratic platform by 2012.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 10:55 PM
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19. N.J. charter schools funding is expected to remain flat, education chief says
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 11:00 PM
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20. "Christie said he largely left the funding for charter schools untouched "
He did not cut their funding, only the funding for public schools.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 12:20 AM
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21. Interesting comments after the article at the first link.
Too many posts showing utter contempt for teachers. When there is lack of respect toward teachers it makes their job harder. It's being done on purpose to discredit.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 01:56 AM
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23. same tune, different party
Our administration seems to be on board with the same policies in Detroit and other blighted areas.
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 09:46 AM
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27. How Obamaesque of him.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 10:32 AM
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28. Bob Herbert gets what is happening. A Ruinous Meltdown.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/20/opinion/20herbert.html?src=me

"A story that is not getting nearly enough attention is the ruinous fiscal meltdown occurring in state after state, all across the country.

Taxes are being raised. Draconian cuts in services are being made. Public employees are being fired. The tissue-thin national economic recovery is being undermined. And in many cases, the most vulnerable populations — the sick, the elderly, the young and the poor — are getting badly hurt.

In New Jersey, the newly elected governor, Chris Christie, has proposed a series of budget cuts that, among other things, would result in public schools receiving $820 million less in state aid than they had received in the prior school year. Some well-off districts would have their direct school aid cut off altogether. Poorer districts that rely almost entirely on state aid would absorb the biggest losses in terms of dollars. They’re bracing for a terrible hit.

For all the happy talk about “no child left behind,” the truth is that in Arizona and New Jersey and dozens of other states trying to cope with the fiscal disaster brought on by the Great Recession, millions of children are being left far behind, and many millions of adults as well."

The fact that Christie and many other governors and state politicians are not cutting money to charter schools...are not building up the public school sector is terribly scary. They are making corporations who want to run schools richer.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 04:12 PM
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45. Horrendous stuff gong on there
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 11:23 AM
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32. Arrogant and insulting is right.
:grr:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 02:12 PM
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38. RECALL HIM!
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 07:58 PM
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62. For what? This is exactly what NJ voted for.
Unfortunately, a lot of people are going to suffer, but this is the choice they made. It's a hard lesson, but it's one they are going to have to learn.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 02:36 PM
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40. Charters are the stepchild of vouchers..
Edited on Sat Mar-20-10 02:37 PM by SoCalDem
just another way to siphon off public cash given by the many, into enterprises masquerading as public, but being run by private entities..benefiting the few lucky lottery-winners....

It's all very clever too..

Find schools that are not performing well..but fail to mention that they HAVE to accept everyone who lives withing their boundary area.. kvetch about every dollar they ask for, deprive them of every penny possible, complain about their lousy scores, attack the teaching staff...then close the school, and "lease" it to a charter organization & give them the funding...they then hire non-union, or desperate-at-any-wage former union teachers.. select students they want..jettison the ones they don't.. they operate with public money, and without all those pesky "rules" the real public schools have to follow..
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 04:42 PM
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50. Yep. All the while marketing charters as "freedom of choice"
It's pretty sick.



Worked for Burger King though.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 02:59 PM
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41. kr
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 04:30 PM
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47. Obama gave them the green light.
Edited on Sat Mar-20-10 04:31 PM by cornermouse
I'm surprised more of them haven't piled on. k & r.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 04:41 PM
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49. Sounds bipartisan to me!
Heard this somewhere else recently.... Hmmmm....
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 04:44 PM
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51. Christie has done what all Repukes do, recklessly cutting everything
while refusing to have the wealthy take any kind of hit. Now THAT is fiscal irresponsibility. I read earlier in this thread that the Dem. legislature has been strong; what has it stood up to? I'm in SE PA, yet haven't seen. Glad to also see the budget protests - KYW 3 actually covered them. The Democrats will have to gain power in NJ and fix another mess.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 04:51 PM
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53. Trouble is that Arne Duncan's goals are the same as Christie's.
He may not sound as ruthless, but his discretionary money...he says as much as 10 billion...are being awarded to states that are allowing more charter schools.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 04:53 PM
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54. Don't agree with Arne either, but I was pointing..
out the big picture of what Christie is doing and the mess he is making.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 04:55 PM
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55. I agree, the Republicans who control FL are doing the same.
They are virtually destroying the state in the name of ideology.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 10:36 PM
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70. The Republicans are the destroyers and they've been at it for decades now . . .!!!
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 06:06 PM
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56. Thanks for your ongoing coverage of the schools situation
What's happening is absolutely chilling.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 06:14 PM
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57. The vile fat ass is trying to repeat Reagan's destruction of California Schools here.
Edited on Sat Mar-20-10 06:15 PM by NNadir
I have a woman down the street who makes a big fucking deal about what a "great" Democrat she is.

She voted for Schundler.

She has four daughters in our school system, and we're losing 80% of our state aid.

There is NOT ONE republican who respects education, not one.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 06:30 PM
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58. he is just doing what obama and duncan are doing....
busting the unions and creating separate and unequal schools...

racing to the bottom one public school at a time
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 06:40 PM
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59. Yes
he is.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 07:32 PM
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61.  here in northern illinois there are several schools where
the students are protesting the budget cuts. they are picketing and letter writing to their state officials. maybe it`s time to organize the kids....
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 08:32 PM
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63. How very Republican of him.
Edited on Sat Mar-20-10 08:34 PM by glitch
And by Republican I mean Fascist.

And yet he sounds very familiar...
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-10 10:16 PM
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64. Sigh...the typical misplacing of funds out of public education. n/t
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 11:27 AM
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66. WTF is this, if not a crime????
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 11:35 AM
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67. One would think so, but it is national policy now....
to give taxpayer money to privately run schools.

:shrug:

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 10:34 PM
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69. This is so absolutely sickening . . .
Edited on Sun Mar-21-10 10:36 PM by defendandprotect
I can only take the Nader view that maybe this will finally wake up NJ!!!

I live here!!!

How much is Christie making and what is he giving up -- ?

Damn, damn, damn . . .

And, I'm sure that the poorest areas will be hit the hardest --

and of course they are after this teachers' union!!!

Blast!!




PS: IMO, the sexist, racist, homophobic nature of the GOP cannot be overstated!!!

They are vile!!

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Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 01:40 AM
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71. k/r important
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