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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:37 PM
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Lieberman opened his mouth and out came this:


"There is something profoundly wrong when opposition to the war in Iraq seems to inspire greater passion than opposition to Islamist extremism."


http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2007/ss_iraq_04_22.html


"There is something profoundly wrong when opposition to the war in Iraq seems to inspire greater passion than opposition to Islamist extremism.

There is something profoundly wrong when there is so much distrust of our intelligence community that some Americans doubt the plain and ominous facts about the threat to us posed by Iran.
And there is something profoundly wrong when, in the face of attacks by radical Islam, we think we can find safety and stability by pulling back, by talking to and accommodating our enemies, and abandoning our friends and allies.

Some of this wrong- headed thinking about the world is happening because we're in a political climate where, for many people, when George Bush says "yes," their reflex reaction is to say "no."

That is unacceptable."
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and then he smirked
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:38 PM
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1. Utter incomprehensible bullshit?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:42 PM
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4. After actually reading the post--yep, I'm right...
Maybe, Joe, we've decided our first priority should be stopping the neverending loss of American lives and money for a waste of a cause. The extremists aren't going anywhere. In fact, we make more of them every day!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:40 PM
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2. Well that is my reaction. george says yes and I say no. Wrong?
That would depend on what the definition of "wrong" is.
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ProgressiveFool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:43 PM
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5. Even if you were just playing the odds
You'd be right to disagree with Bush 9 times out of 10 at least...
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:45 PM
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8. At least!
:evilgrin:
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:41 PM
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3. "distrust of our intelligence community"
OK Lieberman, why do you think the Bush Administration saw fit to bypass the CIA with the Office of Special Plans then?

Mind answering that one?
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:44 PM
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6. Lieberman is a propagandist. He certainly is not a Democrat. He used to be.
He isn't now.

Connecticut Democrats were given a choice of then-Democrat Lieberman and his challenger for the Democratic nomination, Ned Lamont.

They chose Lamont.

They're smart people.

Lieberman is subverting the anti-war sentiment. He's doing it on purpose and to provoke media coverage.

He's a grandstanding propagandist. Compare Lieberman's remarks on Iraq for the last 4-5 years to Joe Biden's. Both are New England/Atlantic seaboard Democrats of long standing.

I'll take Biden's view any day of the week.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:51 PM
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:55 PM
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16. Hi, MM. Good questions. I don't know the answer to any of them.
Lieberman clearly believed that he, and not Gore or Kerry or anyone else, should have been the party's nominee in 2004.

And clearly he miscalculated. Maybe there are too many yes men and yes women in his office and not enough hard-boiled, white-knuckled realists.

Or maybe we're dealing with a contrarian who fuels his ego with public controversy -- one of those people accustomed to power and who feed on the adrenaline of causing others to react. They make a statement or do something they know will rankle and then feed on the response.

There's a desperate, Willy Loman aspect to Lieberman career at this point. He's a has-been. Your analysis of his standing after the 08 elections is right-on, IMO.
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:00 PM
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21. These are Great Questions!...n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:40 PM
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:46 PM
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9. Ewww! I didn't need that mental image!
Edited on Tue May-01-07 12:47 PM by Blue State Native
:puke:
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:47 PM
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10. I hate Joe Lieberman.
I loathe him. I remain profoundly upset that the people of Connecticut put that turd back in office over Ned Lamont.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 02:42 PM
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46. Yeah, I'm still working through
that one too. lieman is up there on the level of bush in Traitors against The United States of America.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:48 PM
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11. Something's been PROFOUNDLY wrong for 6+ years!! you fool.
mr.Lieberman is a profoundly foolish man.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:01 PM
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22. Amen.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:52 PM
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13. I am convinced that there is some sort of collusion between the
WH/Cheney and Holy Joe. I don't know what they promised him, but if we dig deep enough, we'll find it. The reason he still caucuses with the Dems is to defeat Democratic unity on Iraq/Iran, pure and simple--he alone makes support for the war in the Senate "bipartisan". He is getting rewarded for this somehow, somewhere.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:20 PM
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30. The other reason he still caucuses with the Dems is...
...to keep his friends close, and his enemies closer. And also to funnel information to the Republicans, who after all were instrumental in his winning re-election.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 02:44 PM
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47. Good point..the traitor is doing
daily reconnaissance out in the wide open.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:52 PM
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14. Lieberman should meet with the "Boy Who Cried Wolf."
I'm sure he can set him straight on the ramifications that come behind too much bullshit for too long.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:54 PM
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15. There is something profoundly wrong when a Democrat sounds
like a war mongering Republican.
There is something profoundly wrong when two men who are supposed to be politically opposed kiss openly at the STOU.
There is something profoundly wrong when a man threatens to desert his party if they honor the will of the American people.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 02:20 PM
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43. There is something wrong there, and has been since forever
There is something wrong when a Democrat gets elected, by running to the right of the Republican incumbent. Especially when he does it with the support of the 'National Review' (that was the first time I'd heard of the thing).

I've distrusted this man since he got elected in 1988.

But we've got people as bad here (sigh). Bush's arse must be a crowded place, with most of the Republicans, Lieberman, Blair, most of his Cabinet, and John Howard all living up there.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 02:47 PM
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48. Yeah, lieman was sounding like this
when he still a dino but now he is of the independent lieman party.

I'm hoping in 2008 we get some more real Dems in the Senate and liemna can go throw himself on a flying donut.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:56 PM
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17. Bush's Pet Goat...
Has spoken...
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:57 PM
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18. i was expecting a forked tongue ....
what an UNPATRIOTIC discompassionate asshole!
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:58 PM
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19. I HATE this man!
I hate him more than I hate Bush. Yes, MORE than I hate Bush. At least Bush is a moronic dweeb Right-Wing Evangelical brainless Evil Idiot. ...but Liebermann actually has a brain and still spews EVIL.

I really hate him.
Lee
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 02:49 PM
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49. I think lieman
had a "brain" at one point in time but it has clearly deteriorated by whatever he's been eating all these years.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:59 PM
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20. What is a wrong head?
Just want to know since apparently I have one
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bigscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:02 PM
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24. as a Nutmegger
I can say Lieberman is truly a complete asshole - everyone I know in CT hates him for what he has become and cannot believe they supported him for VP in 2000. Screw him
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 02:51 PM
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50. So it was the repubs that
put him back in the senate as an independent lieman?
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 02:52 PM
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51. "What is a Wrong Head?"
:rofl:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:01 PM
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:06 PM
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25. I fully agree with Holy Joe on this part: "There is something profoundly wrong."
There is indeed something **way** wrong. This country's priorities have never been so bent and skewed. The list of * administration law-breaking, wrongdoing, flubs, goofs, errors and just plain fuck-ups is long enough to reach the moon and back.
:grr:

The rest of Joe's brain-droppings are so off-track and out-of-touch that they'd be laughable if things weren't so serious.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:07 PM
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26. I never realized just how chickenshit scared he is.
Joe, you need therapy and medication. Get help.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:14 PM
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27. Well, Senator, I agree
It's called basing a war on a pack of lies.

It's called not have a plan for the occupation.

It's called incompetence, corruption and war criems.

To put it in one neat package, it's called the Bush regime.

Until the regime is ousted from pawer, there will be something terribly wrong.

It would be very helpful, Senator, if you did something more about it that kiss Bush's worthless ass.
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alkaline9 Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:16 PM
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28. Maybe our passion stems from the fact that WE are the terrorists in Iraq...
... I mean, yeah there's bad people in the world, and "we" should take notice and determine a path to correct such violence in our world... but don't you think its a more important step to recognize when "our" forces are the evil ones creating a state of terror for innocent civilians in Iraq?
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:17 PM
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29. there is something profoundly wrong with Traitor Joe
if he thinks anyone gives a rat's ass what he says.

But it's interesting that he's running his mouth all the time, lately. Rove is working him overtime.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:23 PM
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31. nice audition, Joe.
I hope you get the part.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:25 PM
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32. "That is unacceptable"
Well who the f*** asked you, Holey Joey?

As far as I am concerned, Lieberman is unacceptable, and has been since he first reprimanded President Clinton over the Lewinsky affair. He then leveraged his "morally superior" stance into the VP slot on the 2000 presidential ticket, where he promptly assisted in Gore campaign suicide by convincing him he needed to run away from his and Clinton's very successful record.

It has only gotten worse from there, as we all know. Now, he allies himself with the worst disaster to ever befall this country, one George Walker Bush, who has turned out to be a force for incompetence, corruption and destruction beyond what even his most ardent foes had predicted.

Piss on you Joe.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:32 PM
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33. Bush didn't attack Iraq to combat Islamist extremism.
There is something profoundly wrong when the President disregards laws he himself has signed, ignores the Constitution, breaks international treaties, imprisons & murders innocent civilians, invades one sovereign nation, threatens to invade another, and creates a paul of fear over the entire country in order to maintain power - then claims to have committed all these acts to protect America, when in reality they make us LESS safe and LESS strong.

Al Queda will never conquer America. Fascism will, with a great deal of help from Bush.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:42 PM
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35. What a fuck*ng dolt!
He always implies that the fault lies with the people he and the Bushists fail to inspire with their insane, half-baked "idealism." It's your fault, Holy Joe! Look to your navel, not ours!
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:45 PM
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36. Leibercon is a traitor.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:49 PM
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37. 'Cause you know
bombing the shit out of them and trampling on human rights like a frickin bull in a China shop has really reduced, and stemmed the tide of islamic extremism, hasn't it Joe?

Listen dumbass, there is a way to defeat and marginalize islamic extremism...and it sure as hell ain't Chimpy's way
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:49 PM
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38. Stupid old fart, I wonder if he doesn't realize that the country
that no one trusts any more is the United States of America?
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:49 PM
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39. There is something profoundly wrong with Joe and DLC
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threadkillaz Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:52 PM
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40. This guy is the main reason I have trouble getting too excited about Gore.
WTH was Gore thinking in 2000 picking this guy as his VP?

Pandering to Israel? Blackmailed into doing it?

I mean, really. Why?
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 02:18 PM
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42. I think he just panicked about Clinton's impeachment.
And Joe's theatrics made Gore think that if I select Joe as a running mate, that's a good way to defuse my implied association with the scandal, and saying to voters, "I also disapproved of Clinton's behavior, and I'm going to do better." All I can think of.

Water under the bridge, at this point, though.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 03:56 PM
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56. Different Gore
This Gore has been to the desert of destroyed pols and has come out stronger and with his values strengthened and he is a firebrand.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 02:08 PM
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41. Hey Joe, some reflexes are crucial for survival, ie the gag reflex
And it just so happens that the gag reflex is closely related to reflexively knowing that if * says something he is either lying or wrong. I call that reflex the OBSW (ooga booga smooga wooga, or 'Oh BullShit, W') reflex.

Can you imagine if more US citizens and world leaders had the OBSW reflex how many people would still be alive today, all of the needless suffering that would have been avoided? But I doubt that Joe could give a rat's ass about all of the needless death and suffering that could have been avoided, so that leads me to believe that there is a corelation between the abscence of the OBSW reflex and the lack of a conscience.






This post is dedicated to the originator of the ooga booga smooga wooga movement, DUer helderheid :toast:

ps, helderheid, DU really needs you.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 02:28 PM
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44. Hey Joe you've secured your place in history
Alongside luminaries like Vidkun Quisling, Benedict Arnold, and Ephialtes. Enjoy your pillar you worm.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 02:31 PM
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45. You little FUCKER..WRONG.
Edited on Tue May-01-07 02:36 PM by zidzi
There is something Fundamentally WRONG when lieman opens his mouth and anyone give a damn.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 03:00 PM
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52. He's right. There IS something profoundly wrong.
There is something profoundly wrong when, during the past 4 years, it has been proven beyond a shadow of any reasonable doubt, that the entire invasion and occupation of Iraq was based on lies and disinformation. There is also something profoundly wrong that they are trying to use the exact same lies, disinformation and underhanded tactics to invade another sovereign nation that poses absolutely no threat to us as a country, or a people.

There is something profoundly wrong when our intelligence community has to constantly keep looking over their shoulder and can not do their job out of fear that the current administration and their enablers will out them to the world and endanger themselves, and their families lives, if they do not manufacture false intelligence.

There is something profoundly wrong that we have no real allies left in the world because of people such as yourself, and those whom were elected to keep and eye on things such as this failed presidency to ensure that these very atrocities do not happen.

And finally, there is something profoundly wrong that the very people who enabled this, such as you Joe; continue to lie to us daily and are STILL in office and not behind bars serving time for crimes against humanity.

Yes Joe. There IS something profoundly wrong.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 03:23 PM
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53. I don't see the rationale for any Democrat to defend Joe Lieberman at
this stage of the game.

He's betrayed us left and right -- mostly Right -- for years now.

Connecticut Democrats chose Lamont as their nominee in 06, and I believe their instinct was exactly right.
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Jeroen Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 03:34 PM
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54. Senate Session, right now, Lieberman just encouraged Bush to Veto n/t
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 03:44 PM
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55. Well, there you have it. The Democratic leadership works to marshall
a majority and keep us together and one shithead named Lieberman loosens the bolts.

What an asshole.
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