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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 01:55 PM
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anyone hearing this lying pos on cspan?
Edited on Sun Mar-21-10 02:12 PM by spanone
so the cbo is lying hey fucker?

that's what he said...he didn't say maybe or perhaps or he thinks...he said the congressional budget office is lying.

rep. ryan = lying mofo
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LiberalLoner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 01:57 PM
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1. Everything I've been hearing from the right-wing these last few days has
made my jaw drop. They truly aren't afraid to appear insane and totally delusional anymore. They aren't even pretending to be rational or sane at this point.
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sneezepaddle Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 01:57 PM
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2. yes...how can someone with a brain say this legislation is socialist?
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sneezepaddle Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 01:59 PM
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3. His name is Devin Dunes R-California.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 02:05 PM
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8. ryan was the pos i was referring to
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 02:02 PM
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4. I'm using the mute button. Great invention.
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Lifelong Protester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 02:02 PM
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5. Had to go with mute on this one too.
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tosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 02:04 PM
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6. 5th Rec. This guy is beyond offensive.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 02:04 PM
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7. he's lying and lying is offensive....you are correct.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 02:06 PM
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9. Rove basically said the CBO was lying, too (on ABC's This Week this morning)
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 02:07 PM
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11. i wonder who they DO listen to. cbo is as bipartisan as it gets...number crunchers
Edited on Sun Mar-21-10 02:07 PM by spanone
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 02:07 PM
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10. Totalitarian - Socialist - You should be afraid
Total fuckwad that should have his title stripped for the blatant use of his position to spew lies and propaganda. :mad: :mad: :mad:
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 02:11 PM
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12. And if you haven't seen it, take a look at Ryan's Contract on America.

Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3114


Summary:
(I would bold the most egregious parts, but it's all egregious, so read if you have a chance; there's much more at the link as well)

The Ryan plan would eliminate traditional Medicare, most of Medicaid, and all of the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP), converting these health programs largely to vouchers that low-income households, seniors, and people with disabilities could use to help buy insurance in the private health insurance market. Under Ryan’s plan, the value of the vouchers would fall further behind the rising cost of health care with each passing year, so they would purchase less health coverage over time. By 2080, Medicare would be cut 76 percent below its projected size under current policies, according to CBO. In other words, by 2080, the vouchers that would replace Medicare would receive one-quarter of the resources that Medicare would otherwise use.

The Ryan proposal would also replace the tax exclusion for employer-sponsored health insurance with a refundable tax credit for people to buy health coverage — the equivalent of a voucher. By eliminating the tax exclusion without providing incentives for employers to continue offering health coverage, the plan would likely cause a substantial decline in employer-based coverage.

The Ryan proposal thus would sharply reduce or eliminate all major forms of health insurance that spread risk by pooling healthy and less-healthy people together on a large scale. It would do so without taking significant action to create viable new pooling arrangements. Most Americans — including the poor and the elderly — would largely be left to purchase insurance on their own with a voucher or tax credit in an insurance market that would remain largely unreformed. In particular, insurance companies could continue to charge people much higher premiums based on age, gender, or health status.

The Ryan plan also largely lacks the kinds of provisions in the Senate- and House-passed health reform bills that are designed to slow health care cost growth by pushing health care providers to become more efficient and economical. Under the Ryan plan, the burden of reducing health care expenditures would fall primarily on beneficiaries, who would face steadily rising health care costs with a steadily diminishing amount of health insurance and might therefore forgo needed health care.


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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 02:15 PM
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13. on the house floor all the republicans are lying
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