nadinbrzezinski
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Sun Mar-21-10 07:01 PM
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Ah the glory of American Made NOT |
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so my non stick cookware started falling apart... you know how that goes, teflon falling off, cheaply made goods, what can I say?
So I decided it was high time to replace it, I mean I wonder if the headaches came partly from THAT. So silly me, I went looking for American made cookware... with the predictable results.
On the plus side I ended up replacing it with stainless steel... yes so I will use oil... olive oil is not bad for you anyway. But I do hope this made in china set lasts longer than oh two years. As is I know that now the birds can feel free to waddle around in the kitchen... teflon can kill a parrot. Of course waddle around on the floor, never, ever get close to the cooking... I mean don't want them to become part of the meal. That would be more than just a tragic accident. But Connie loves to seat on a step stool and just watch... so no more kicking her out of the kitchen...
But when people go, we still make things in the US... trust me, I GO OUT OF MY WAY to try to get American made goods... not so much luck in this quest.
Oh and for the cooks among you, I did get a cast iron dutch oven (that brand used to be made in Tennessee...but you all know how that goes) but hey, that was a treat to myself. I do the cooking 'round here and I wanted one for the last at least five years. It looks good, and I shall use it for the first time tomorrow... I need to go get the stuff though, later today.
What is galling is that even the Minusa brand (Made in Mexico at one time) is now made in China. Not that it was expensive or anything, but hey... I guess we all need to externalize cots,,,
Oh well.
Oh and I went for the TFAL since it FELT like it was made of better quality. If I am lucky it will last half as long as my mom's wedding set. That one is still going after fifty years or so...
Sad isn't it? I don't even expect this to be the last set I ever buy. I wonder when will things change, I really do.
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Sun Mar-21-10 07:05 PM
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1. Just remember to get that deep fryer for thanksgiving. |
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nothing like a floating turkey to up your spirits.
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Sun Mar-21-10 07:13 PM
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many reasons for that....
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For that though I have a wonderful piece of cookware that actually has not fallen apart from oh a long time. We gave that turkey roaster to my mom, ironic I know, over fifteen years ago.
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Sun Mar-21-10 07:13 PM
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2. Try visiting junk stores. Cast iron lasts forever, and you can get old stuff. |
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But, yes, it is tough to find stuff Made in the U.S.A., unless you are looking to buy a warplane.
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Sun Mar-21-10 07:14 PM
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4. You want me to mention the number of foreign components |
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in that warplane?
And yes I have tried that visiting used stores... when I see a cast iron piece, I will grab it though.
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Sun Mar-21-10 07:17 PM
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If you want American made, it's there, it's just 40 years old (or more). Lots of good things to be found when the heirs clean out grandmother's house and have a yard sale.
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Sun Mar-21-10 07:20 PM
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6. All-Clad stainless steel pans are still made in the U.S |
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Edited on Sun Mar-21-10 07:22 PM by Gormy Cuss
although the lids aren't,and All-Clad is expensive even on discount but it's really good quality. The same company makes Emerilware, also at least partly produced in the U.S.
eta: yes, I know this isn't affordable for many people. I'm just pointing out that there is still cookware made here. Cast iron is the only affordable and sturdy cookware made in the U.S. as best I can tell.
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Sun Mar-21-10 07:31 PM
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8. Here is the price differential |
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150 bucks versus close to 700.
Now I know about externalities and all that, but this is kind of ridiculous. Now if it was oh 300 even if a little pricey I'd jump on it. In a way they priced themselves out of my affordability list.
As to Emeril Ware... I looked at it... and quite frankly I did not want NON-STICK any more... two conures chiefly.
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Sun Mar-21-10 07:47 PM
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15. Well, I said it was expensive. |
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It's possible to get pieces for less than half of retail when they're sold in sets or promotions, but that's still out of most people's budgets. They are really well-engineered pans though. If money were no object I'd have a complete set of All-Clad.
I'm with you on the nonstick --I avoid it as much as possible but there is one nonstick pan in the house for special circumstances, and it's not Teflon coated.
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Sun Mar-21-10 08:17 PM
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made in Italy that's lasted YEARS... the rest went to the recycle bin. No I did not feel they were good enough to go to Good will. I got headaches, no need for somebody else to get them
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Sun Mar-21-10 07:24 PM
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7. They still make stuff in America? |
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Sun Mar-21-10 07:32 PM
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9. Why is it that I cannot LIKE GET THEM at the store? |
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Sun Mar-21-10 08:17 PM
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20. Honestly, if you cannot find quality American made cookware in a major U.S. city,... |
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... you simply are not trying very hard.
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Sun Mar-21-10 09:17 PM
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24. Yes I am, and you really cannot |
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Sun Mar-21-10 07:34 PM
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11. Oh and the Lodge Caste Iron I bought the Dutch Oven |
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is no LONGER made in the US.
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Sun Mar-21-10 08:16 PM
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19. According to their site, the enamel cookware is imported from |
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China. The cast iron is made in the US. Good luck with your search for US made products, it's not easy finding things that aren't made in China!
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Sun Mar-21-10 08:19 PM
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22. I try but it is a losing battle |
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Got the basis, and now will have to scour the used stuff store... for cast iron... or other stuff/
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Sun Mar-21-10 07:32 PM
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10. All of the relatively affordable non-stick cookware is crap. |
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It doesn't matter where it is made. Don't know about the more expensive stuff, because I can't afford it. And, you can't go above medium heat with it, so what good is it? My Revereware is about 20 years old. Stainless steel with copper bottom. It's still in great shape. My 5-year-old, rarely used T-fal frying pan? Not so much. I don't know where it's made now, but my Revereware was manufactured in Clinton, Iowa.
BTW, that brand in Tennessee still makes most of their cookware there. It's only the enamelware that's imported.
I HATE that everything in our stores is cheap Chinese CRAP.
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Sun Mar-21-10 07:37 PM
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12. Well it was the enamelware that they had |
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and I got... after almost throwing a fit that it was NOT made in the US... since I remember that being MADE in the US.
It will still be used, like oh TOMORROW... to make a nice stew.
:-)
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Sun Mar-21-10 07:45 PM
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13. I wish I could afford Le Creuset... |
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I would love one of their enameled Dutch ovens. I think they may still be made in France, so not made by slave labor, at least. But, I can't afford one right now--even from somewhere like Tuesday Morning. A plain, old non-enameled Lodge oven would be okay, too. Don't see many of them around, however.
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Sun Mar-21-10 08:09 PM
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17. I considered the Le Creuset |
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but decided to go for the Lodge... why I was throwing a fit.
Regardless it will last my lifetime and perhaps when I die one of my nephews or nieces will get it... one of them actually cooks, so she might appreciate it.
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Sun Mar-21-10 08:30 PM
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23. They are still made in France. I splurged once upon a time when things were |
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better on a small set when there was a tax free week. They weigh a ton but I love them. It is too bad that my stove is a completely unlevel piece of shit but I have no control over that as I rent. But when things are better again I will start saving money to buy more of the pieces. At least I know the pots won't leech anything into my food that may kill me.
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Sun Mar-21-10 09:17 PM
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25. You can still get the Lodge dutch ovens |
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I think I've even seen them at Wal-Mart, although you might have to go to someplace like B,B&By to find them. I have a Le Creuset dutch oven. Even though it was relatively expensive it was an excellent investment because I use it very often. I figure if you're going to use something at least once or twice a week, it's worth it to pay a bit more. The plain cast iron dutch ovens such as those made by Lodge are probably just as good and perhaps even more versatile as they will accept more abuse and temperature extremes, but they are just going to be a bit harder to clean. As long as you keep them well seasoned, they shouldn't be that much harder. Although I have never chipped my Le Creuset, I'm always afraid I will. I wouldn't be so worried about a plain cast iron dutch oven.
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Sun Mar-21-10 09:21 PM
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26. This is enammeled so I will have the chip worry |
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but hey, I wanted one for a while, and this one should last a lifetime (as long as I am careful with it).
And I could even make a coq a vin (chicken stewed in its own juices) in it.
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Sun Mar-21-10 09:29 PM
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27. That's what I use mine for quite often |
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...but it's just not quite the same these days unfortunately. You can't even buy a stewing chicken anymore (at least I haven't seen one for sale in many years), much less an old rooster to make coq a vin. So I haven't been able to make it like my grandma used to in many years. Generally I substitute either thighs and legs or wild game birds when I can get them. It's not the same, but it's better than using a whole frier that falls apart and turns into chicken soup.
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Sun Mar-21-10 09:33 PM
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28. I could have bought a rooster |
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today at the farmer's market.
But I remember them as tough little birds... from the Kibutz.
I was thinking of doing turkey on it, or a good stew.
I will see, tomorrow I am going to pick that up.
For the moment watching this history moment.
Though talking cooking and cookery is kind of a nice distraction from the drama...
:hi:
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Mon Mar-22-10 09:15 AM
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30. Oh geez, you should have bought it |
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My ancestry is French and my grandmother would make the dish occassionally. I was raised on a small farm and my grandmother would always ask my dad for the old rooster when we would get a new one. I remember also as a kid you could buy stewing chickens at the grocery store which was simply older birds than the friers and made for a reasonable substitute. I can remember begging my grandmother to make it as it was one of my favorite dishes.
Yep, it's always a good time to talk about cooking, but now it's an even better distraction.
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Sun Mar-21-10 08:05 PM
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16. I have the original non-stick American made cookware...Cast Iron |
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Cast iron cookware may well be made in China now for all I know, but all my pans are fairly old and US made. I do have a couple of teflon frying pans that I bought at Sams many years ago and they have held up well, but they are made in China. I rarely use them for anything other than omelets and crepes. My saucepans are all stainless with an aluminum core, which were made in the US and still can be cleaned up to almost like-new condition if I care to work on them for a while. My dutch oven is enameled cast iron, made in France. Although I don't necessarily buy the absolute best, I do tend to buy top notch cookware, because I use it heavily for decades. Some of the stuff I have has been bought used, or inherited from family members. You don't necessarily have to spend a lot to get good stuff.
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Sun Mar-21-10 08:14 PM
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18. Yeah for the moment I needed to just get it |
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as I said the headaches were getting bad... and that is the fumes.
So I know that when I go to the used store I will grab these things are they appear...
As you do, I use them intensely. Just made an omelette with vegies and Quinoa, as well as done on black truffle laced butter.
Now that was the real luxury today at the farmer's market. It gives food a very nice taste.
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Sun Mar-21-10 09:44 PM
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29. Goodwill is another spot to check |
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the good quality stuff lasts forever.
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