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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 11:24 PM
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Soooo....
...as the health care initiatives start to emerge and 31,000,000 realize they now have access to care what do you think the over/under is for the President's reelection?

I'll start at 60% and 400 EV.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 11:26 PM
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1. If only..
Unfortunately, 31 million will soon learn (as if they don't already know) that access to insurance is not even in the same ballpark as access to care.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 11:30 PM
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4. +10
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 11:28 PM
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2. I don't think there is any (R) that can beat him.
they will devour themselves in the primary and anyone who could beat the entire Clinton machine can take on Romney after he has lost the religious win of the Republican party (since they won't vote for a Mormon)
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 11:35 PM
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5. I couldn't take another republican in the WH yet, I'm still recovering from
two Bushes and Reagan.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 11:30 PM
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3. It will depend on what that access to insurance costs n/t
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 11:41 PM
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6. They do NOT have access to care. They have INSURANCE. They most assuredly do not
have anything like a guarantee of ACCESS TO CARE. This is what some of us have been trying to drill into your heads for months now, but you just won't ever get it, will you? Two-thirds of medical bankruptcies least year were of people who HAD INSURANCE.

I don't know why I keep bothering to try to point this shit out. I really don't. Fuck it, have your happy party. You'll see.
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Dr Morbius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 11:42 PM
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7. Voters will need to see some tangible benefit by October.
For the right-wing media, which essentially means TV, radio, and Fox "News" in addition to a handful of newspapers, will tell the American people for the next 2.5 years how terrible this will all end up. Of course, the left will combat the misinformation, but how has that been working for us so far?

The people are going to have to see something tangible, some real savings or benefit from this. If they do, President Obama is likely to win reelection, especially since the GOP can't field anyone with anywhere near Obama's charisma level (charisma is EVERYTHING in elections in America today). If people don't see benefit, even if a real benefit is happening, it could be tough for the President.
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