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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 11:44 PM
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Tonight Ronald Reagan is turning in his grave
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KILL THE WISE ONE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 11:46 PM
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1. good
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 11:46 PM
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2. How on earth could he?
The repukes haven't let him rest in peace since he kicked the bucket!

:hi: and :hug: for tonight!!!
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 11:53 PM
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8. Funny the repugs are now acting like W never existed.
Damn, commie, socialist, Islamic, big government programs .....
that help people and save money too.



BTW Obama spent one year trying to reach out and 0 republican votes .....
screw 'em all and let them stew in their own juices.

Damn how did Wisconsin get so lucky?
Paul Ryan :puke:
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 11:55 PM
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9. I think the repukes have already thrown Ryan under the bus.
At least, I read something like that not too long ago.

Congrats also to OSU for a fine tournament so far. :)
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 11:59 PM
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13. Congrats also to OSU for a fine tournament so far
Looking Good but then again we didn't have to play the powerhouses
of Wofford and Cornell :rofl:

BTW Ohio U did all right too.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:06 AM
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21. O c'mon, you know I'm a Duke fan.
I thought WI would win today, but for Keith, I'm happy Cornell has done so well.

My revised final four: OSU, Syracuse, WVa, and Duke. :toast:
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GigiMommy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 11:56 PM
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12. Did I ever tell you that you are my FAVE!?!
Shhh...don't tell anyone.:loveya: :loveya: :loveya:




Time to go to bed.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 11:47 PM
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3. Really, I would think they love this bill. Its mandated private insurance.
It has nothing to do with socialized medicine. It may turn into socialized medicine, but at this time, it is not...
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:37 AM
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26. Indeed, to quote someone who has seemingly infiinite cred w/ the HCR bill supporters:
Edited on Mon Mar-22-10 12:40 AM by kenny blankenship
it (the HCR bill) represents a remarkable level of industry consensus. And it's been almost meaningless when it's come to Republican support. For all that liberals think the GOP is owned by insurers and pharmaceutical companies, this battle has been proof positive that they are owned by their base and they represent industry only when convenient. Imagine the concessions Pharma or the hospitals could have gotten by bringing three Republican senators onto the bill. They could've written the thing.
    -- Ezra Klein, Washington Post March 19, 2010
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And yet Hill Republicans DO love this kind of legislation, that this when THEY propose it:

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Republicans now say they hate the mandate that requires everyone to buy insurance. But an individual mandate was hailed as a form of “personal responsibility” by no less a conservative Republican than Mitt Romney. He was proud of the mandate, and also proud of the insurance exchange idea, known in Massachusetts as “The Health Connector” (the idea itself came from the conservative Heritage foundation). Romney had a right to be proud. As governor of Massachusetts in 2006, he signed a bill that is the closest thing there is to a model for what the Democrats are proposing.
    -- E.J. Dionne, March 20, 2010

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Look at what we've become, Democrats, if you dare.

We didn't model our new system on Canada, nor on France, nor even on Switzerland, nor Germany or Japan. We copied Mitt Fucking Romney and the fucking Heritage Foundation.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 01:02 AM
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29. Yes, Mitt Romney care.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 01:27 AM
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36. Don't forget the Gingrich HCR proposal, which Obama admitted was very similar.nt
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 01:23 AM
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32. I agree,
I think Ronald Reagan would have loved this bill. The bill further enriches and empowers the greedy for-profit health insurers.

There is nothing socialist about this bill whatsoever.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 01:24 AM
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34. +1 nt
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 11:48 PM
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4. The dust - it moved!
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 11:49 PM
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5. I'll take Schadenfreude for 500, Alex...
Edited on Sun Mar-21-10 11:49 PM by dchill
What is "fringe benefit?"
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 11:51 PM
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6. Nixon's health care plan just passed!
and it took a Democratic president to do it!

Yep, that would have riled St. Ronnie
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Grand Taurean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 11:52 PM
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7. Defeating Ronald S**Tbag Reagan's war against the middle class
is what I define as success.
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neobeetle Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 11:55 PM
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10. Who cares
let him turn while I shit on it
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:03 AM
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15. Enjoy your stay it will not be for long. Have a snack too.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-10 11:56 PM
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11. Two birds ... one stone ...

Hook a turbine up to that sucker and keep passing bills that make him spin, spin, SPIN!

Energy problem SOLVED!

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mindwalker_i Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:00 AM
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14. Hey, maybe we can hook a generator to that and supply the nation
with green energy. Or brown, or whatever.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:07 AM
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22. Great minds and all ...

:)



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mindwalker_i Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:19 AM
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23. I hit reply before reading all the replies
You are absolutely right, great minds do think alike!
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:03 AM
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16. No, Raygun would love the Individual Mandate.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:05 AM
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18. A mandate to purchase for-profit insurance - it'd give him a total woody
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:29 AM
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25. Actually even the mandate would have been anathema to him
Edited on Mon Mar-22-10 12:31 AM by andym
He was a total free marketeer, meaning no government interference in business was his ideal.
So a mandate would not be acceptable, even though it provides business for the insurers. He believed in a kind of economic survival of the fittest (though apparently did not believe in biological evolution). If the market can't solve something, then a company should die.


Even more unacceptable to him is the creation of a new social program for the less affluent-- he would those payments to allow those who are not earning enough to pay for insurance-- even though they go to insurance companies. You see he would feel these people are undeserving fraudsters.
He would say that they are being denied the freedom to not get medical care.

And he would hate most of all the regulations imposed on insurance companies to eradicate pre-existing condition exemptions and recission, He would consider that unacceptable government influence in the free market.
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:39 AM
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27. Raygun loved throwing record sums at arms monopolies.
He would definitely approve of throwing record sums at medical monopolies.
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:52 AM
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28. Actually no-- he only gave record sums to arms monopolies
Edited on Mon Mar-22-10 12:53 AM by andym
because he believed the one acceptable role of government is war/defense (in the constitution). He believed military spending was the only acceptable place for expanding government (to "defeat" the Soviets) and the feeding the defense companies was a natural consequence (and an exception to the general free market only rule). He had no belief in any role of government in a social safety net of any kind.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:04 AM
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17. as long as the asshole stays there, np n/t
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:05 AM
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20. and chain-smoking, too.

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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 01:19 AM
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30. Wonder how many lung cancer deaths he caused, while shilling for big tobacco.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:20 AM
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24. I'm sure he's so busy burning in Hell he's not even going to notice.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 01:22 AM
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31. A Blue Cross/Kaiser-Permanente man through & through...or was it Chesterfields?
Maybe Monsanto or Boraxo I fergit
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 01:23 AM
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33. nope; i think he'd be tickled at the corporate win; a republicam hcr bill is what we've got
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 01:25 AM
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35. Watch the stock market tomorrow to test your theory. nt
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 03:15 AM
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39. Another health ins CEO will buy a private island off the increase in the stock.
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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 01:40 AM
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37. A grave he entered 30 years too late...
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Grand Taurean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 01:21 PM
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41. +1
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Unrepentant Fenian Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 02:20 AM
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38. I didn't attend his funeral, but I was wholly in favor of it!
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 05:08 AM
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40. SPIN, BABY, SPIN
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