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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:19 AM
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These Democrats signed their political death warrants for supporting HCR...
Edited on Mon Mar-22-10 12:19 AM by cynatnite
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Members in this category include Reps. Harry Mitchell of Arizona, Chris Carney of Pennsylvania and Baron Hill of Indiana, each of whom was elected in the 2006 Democratic wave and represents a seat that George W. Bush carried twice.

And virtually every freshman Democrat who won a marginal district in 2008 will need to mount a vigorous explanation of the benefits of a “yes” vote — especially members like Reps. Mark Schauer of Michigan and Dina Titus of Nevada, who won Republican-held seats.

Some veterans — among them nine-term Rep. Earl Pomeroy, who hails from solidly Republican North Dakota, and West Virginia Reps. Alan Mollohan and Nick Rahall — will also feel the heat.

Two first-term women, however, stand out for being in extreme jeopardy: Florida Rep. Suzanne Kosmas and Colorado Rep. Betsy Markey, both of whom went from no on the November health care vote to yes in March and both of whom represent GOP-leaning seats that voted for presidential nominee John McCain in 2008.

After Markey announced her support for the bill last week, the National Republican Congressional Committee immediately blasted out an e-mail labeling her “Betsy Margolies-Mezvinsky” — a reference to former Pennsylvania Democratic Rep. Marjorie Margolies-Mezvinsky, who lost her seat in 1994 after taking a bullet for the party and casting a tough vote for President Bill Clinton’s budget.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34773.html

There are more mentioned in the article. A lot of them will lose out big because they did the right thing.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:22 AM
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1. Yes, this is another reason why 2010 looks bad for Dems.
I'm being neutral here. I'm done with the advocacy against a insurance bill I felt did more harm than good because its done. Moving on....

But, lots of Democrats voted for the bill despite huge opposition from their own districts, and that's big trouble for them in November. Not sure what the answer would be on that...
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:23 AM
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4. They supported it knowing what it would cost them...I call it courage. n/t
Edited on Mon Mar-22-10 12:24 AM by cynatnite
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:29 AM
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10. I'm not arguing that. I'm just pointing out the tough spot.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:33 AM
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13. I think early on it might hurt them a little...
but I don't think the costs will be heavy. In the long run, the Dems will be very strong. The only way I see this being bad for the Dems is if the repukes dreams for HCR come true...and that's very unlikely since they're usually wrong about everything.

Ed Schultz said tonight that the Dems own HCR now. It's all theirs so it's going to be up to them to make it work the way it's intended to work.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:23 AM
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2. We need to support them in whatever way we can.
Financially, with phone calls, whatever.

They stuck their necks out and we need to have their backs.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 01:39 AM
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18. I plan to.
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dhill926 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:23 AM
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3. a lot can happen in 6 months....
let's see how it shakes out. Could work in their favor if issues are framed well.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:24 AM
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5. uh, so, the 'right' thing was to turn insurance companies into quasi federal entities
with the power of the IRS to enforce? The 'right' thing was to mandate the purchase of a crappy pseudo product from a FOR PROFIT company as requisite terms for legal citizenship?

:crazy:
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:31 AM
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11. And Democrats who opposed the bill for all the reasons you
mention, the right reasons, will not vote for them either. So at least they should have stood up for a good bill which would have energized those who got them elected in the first place.

We saw the result of catering to Republicans tonight. When Pelosi and Obama pointed out at the Health Care Summit that they 'included many Republican ideas' in the bill, they seemed to asking who then, were they not happy? Are they really that naive?

Standing up for at least a PO would have guaranteed those Democrats the support of a very active and effective base. Now, they have lost that support. They never would have had Republican support no matter what they did.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:24 AM
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6. These People, Ma'am, Have A Better Chance Than Those In Similar Disticts Who Voted Nay
At least the Democrats in these peoples' districts will turn out to vote for them....
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:25 AM
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7. Politico's usual wish list
If the election were this month, that would be one thing. But between now and November, a lot will happen. I think enough people will personally experience benefit from this in that time to pretty much render any 'attack' for supporting this bill ineffective.

Another thing to consider: Whom they will be running against. The republican that emerges from the primaries in these districts will likely be teabaggers (or teabagger panderers,) and they'll be even crazier by November.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:26 AM
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8. Lets wait & see. There are quite a few months between now & November. How many people will be able
to buy ins. when they couldn't buy it before. How many people will continue to be insured but would have been cut off because they became too sick? Those people can tell a lot of their friends how good this law has been for them! That will make a big difference when people vote.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:28 AM
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9. ND has two Dem Senators and a Dem Congressman
An a state run bank.

I don't think they'll be upset about insurance subsiies.

Nor will most people, once they figure out what it is, and more importantly, what it isn't.
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:32 AM
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12.  We will have to make sure that they have all the support they need.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 12:42 AM
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14. If it is the 'right thing' why would they have trouble defending it?
Either it will provide expanded access at lower costs across the board, or it won't.

I, frankly, don't think it will. I think we've been played, and when it all shakes out the insurance industry will have a record windfall, and a fraction of the people it is supposed to help will actually see some relief. I think we will find it fell short of the mark by a LONG way - we compromised it down to a few Republican ideas, and stripped out the GOOD ideas we started with.

We'll see.
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xfundy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 01:23 AM
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15. Thank you for your concern.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 01:26 AM
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16. Ah yes. Politico. The right wing swamp of political analysis.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 01:33 AM
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17. Wrong. The Dems who voted NO should be more worried.
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