Vegetarian activists try in-your-face tactics

[Xipe Totec]

Source: CNN


Wearing lettuce bikinis, two "Lettuce Ladies" urge passersby to go vegetarian during a PETA protest in Sydney, Australia

(CNN) -- Not content to sit quietly at home eating their tofu cutlets, more and more vegetarians, it seems, are taking action, trying to get the carnivorous masses to change their ways.

Of course, the meat-free have been trying to win people over to their cause since the time of Pythagoras. But lately, activists are trying more in-your-face tactics.


Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/03/22/vegan.food.activists/index.html

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Lettuce see more of this type of protest...

[BrklynLiberal]

1. That heavyset guy infront looks like he is comtemplating grabbing some salad for lunch...

[beac]

69. .

:rofl:



(And I'm a vegetarian, though sadly past my lettuce bikini days.)

[Warpy]

2. I dislike proselytizers of any form

and PETA using women's bodies to sell their "product" is disgusting to everyone but male chauvinist pigs.

I say this as someone who doesn't eat meat, only occasional fish. It doesn't matter that I think if more people did more meatless meals every week, we'd have a healthier culture. That meat 3 times a day diet is killing us.

However, this is repellent.

[Brickbat]

3. Well said; I totally agree. nt

[activa8tr]

4. I agree, I give up meat many times a week, and

I think this photo form of public relations is stupid and pointless.

[AlbertCat]

6. That meat 3 times a day diet is killing us.

As an omnivore myself, I agree. I loves me some meat, but eating so much of it is not what nature intended... as much as not eating any. Evolution has made us omnivores who obviously had meat sporadically and veggies and fruits more often.


Y'know what Dian Vreeland said about lettuce...

"I ADORE Lettuce!.... I'm just not sure it's food." I'm sure she'd go for these outfits.

[Beaverhausen]

7. I'm pretty sure these women are doing this willingly

I respect your opinion, but I love how this brings attention to the issue.

I say this as a female who does not eat meat.

[RaleighNCDUer]

9. OTOH, I like the form of those protesters. nt

[Mari333]

11. as a Vegan, myself, I find it entirely insane to use womens bodies

to push an idea. its just a new meat market, isnt it.

just dumb, PETA.


and Im a vegan.

[Gman]

5. All these assholes do is piss people off

Think I'll get a really extra obscenely large sirloin steak for lunch today.

[JackintheGreen]

8. Maybe TMI, but from picture

and from personal experience and research both:

Asparagus eaters taste FAR worse than meat eaters.

And I loves me some asparagus.

Just saying.

[Arkana]

10. Enticing, but they're not going to convince me to give up hamburgers or steak.

Sorry.

[Johonny]

14. It worked on me, I think I'd like to try their salad

this message had no redeeming value.

[951-Riverside]

12. Meh. I've been jaded by the internet. They'll have to do a lot more than...

wear "lettuce bikinis" and hold signs.

[kenny blankenship]

16. Zucchini?

After all, lettuce is a food with next to no nutritional value. I agree it's a bad choice for a didactic device.

[uppityperson]

30. Perhaps for the men's costumes. nt

[NeedleCast]

13. Win Win for me

I like beautiful women in bikinis.

I'm not going to stop eating meat.

PETA needs new tactics. This rates about a 2 on my shock meter.

[Stevenmarc]

15. Romaine'ian models

[reflection]

34. Nice! n/t

[HopeHoops]

17. I will agree with them.

We've been meat-free since '89.

[pink-o]

18. Strident and/or stupid tactics never work to further one's philosophy.

I first became a vegetarian at age 16 in 1971. I fell off the wagon in 73 (talked out of it by doctors and other well-meaning adults) but came back into the fold by '77 and have never (intentionally) eaten meat since then. I have been that strident zealot, that person who nags someone whose dinner includes dead animals and years of experience have shown me that none of this stuff works. No one likes being preached to, whether its to do with religion or the food they eat. No matter how noble your intentions (and I have my doubts about PETA) you're not going to get many converts. People have already stopped listening and pigeon-holed you into the crazy file before you even open your mouth.

Now...if my friends and acquaintances really want to know the bennies of a veg diet, I'm happy to be a living example. I'm 55 years old, very high-energy, very athletic and I'm looking at a quality of aging where I will never give a RED CENT to Big Pharma. I made it thru menopause with no fake hormones, my blood pressure and cholesterol levels are really low, and nothing hurts. I still do a very physical job that requires me to be on my feet all day (I do have the varicose veins to show for it!) and I don't look 30 or anything, but physically I feel amazing.

I'm happy as can be that America is pushing through a better health care system. I also intend to NEVER take advantage of it!

[Zomby Woof]

19. Hope I am not too late

:popcorn:

[Fleshdancer]

20. Oh look. PETA attempts to convince the male penis to not eat meat. Again.

Because I know that when I decide to restrict my diet based on health and/or ethical reasons, it's because nameless young women are posing nude or semi-nude while holding signs about tasting better.

:eyes:

[Vincent441]

22. Don't worry nobody has to convince the female penis

[Regret My New Name]

65. Your outrage (or whatever) for anticipated by PETA and most likely wanted...

That's how PETA rolls. Not sure how well it works for them, but they know how to do it well.

[Scout]

21. does PETA ever use attractive naked men for anything? or just women? n/t

[Xipe Totec]

25. Is there such a thing?

Just saying...




:hide:

[anigbrowl]

31. Well, they do use naked men. Attractive is a matter of opinion.

Last time I checked into this (using google image search to find examples of 'naked PETA') unclothed men accounted for about 40% of the different examples I found. So basically, yes.

Not a PETA member, vegetarian or media analyst.

[Touchdown]

23. Sounds like they want us to be cannibals.

If your going to eat people, make sure their vegetarians! It's the Angus of Humanity!!!

[pipi_k]

24. Don't really like meat, but

I'm not a total vegetarian, either.

Mainly chicken and seafood.


I think I'll run around the city with tuna fish sandwiches pasted to various parts of my body.

[HuckleB]

26. Is a Vegan Diet Really Animal Free?

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/is-a-vegan-diet-really-animal-free

[Name removed]

33. Deleted sub-thread

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[flvegan]

35. Jesus, but that's a dumb article. n/t

[Ignis]

36. "Oh, that's simply because you don't understand it!"

...I expect we'll hear shortly. ;)

[flvegan]

40. ZOMG! Ure not veegan if'n ya breethe!

Their are organisms in the wahtur u drink! Merderer!

Fucking idiots of the highest order.

[HuckleB]

42. I see you two are enjoying your own red herring side show.

Is that vegan red herring?

[flvegan]

44. Oh the irony.

:rofl:

[HuckleB]

46. And yet another non-content, self-satisfied response.

This by the person who chose to respond by posting "that's stupid."

Irony?

Get a mirror.

[Ignis]

45. No, we're enjoying the "concern." Vegans are often the object of others' "concern."

We've heard same this tune played ad nauseam, presented much more skillfully than this.

Try harder.

[HuckleB]

47. Concern?

For whom?

:rofl:

[Ignis]

50. Post #26: You're "concerned" about the animal content of vegan diets.

[HuckleB]

51. No.

Where's the concern, except in your mind?

[Name removed]

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[HuckleB]

55. Since you're asking questions that have a basis only in your imagination...

... you'll have to ask yourself why you need to invent things for others before responding to them.

[Ignis]

56. In English, please?

[HuckleB]

57. I've asked you to stop putting words and assumptions in my mouth.

You can't seem to do that basic task.

Understand?

[Ignis]

58. How is post #33 "putting words and assumptions in {your} mouth?"

[HuckleB]

60. Is post 33 the only post you've made?

:rofl:

[Ignis]

62. Well, feel free to cite examples from any of my posts in this thread.

Shouldn't be hard, given your broad claims of harassment on my part, should it?

[HuckleB]

64. I did.

You chose to ignore it.

[Ignis]

67. Where? Should be easy to re-cite the example if you've already posted it.

[HuckleB]

72. You can find what you chose to ignore.

[Ignis]

75. I'm asking you for specific details, not disingenuous hand-waving.

[superduperfarleft]

79. Wow. You post that article and then complain about red herrings? n/t

[Ignis]

87. Here's an even more juicy article from the same author:

http://www.prairiefirenewspaper.com/2009/08/sonnys-corner

[HuckleB]

37. Thanks for the brilliant response.

:rofl:

[flvegan]

39. Sometimes the truth just appears brilliant.

But thank you.

[HuckleB]

41. "Truth."

I love it when people revert to that routine.

Thanks for the giggle.

[flvegan]

43. You're welcome.

[Ignis]

74. Dominionist Christian screed tarted up with pseudo-science.

This same author made the same anti-vegetarian argument better (and much, much more honestly) in his earlier article, "Why Christians Cannot Support Animal Rights."

http://www.kingsdivinity.org/about/faculty-stephen-vantassel

So why bother asking nutritionists or doctors for advice on a vegetarian diet when we can ask a tutor at an e-learning divinity school instead?

:eyes:

[HuckleB]

27. Isn't this like Christians going out to "convert" people?

I don't care what other people choose to eat, but this side of the diet world is blurring the boundaries between diet choices and religion, IMO.

[Kitty Herder]

28. PETA can kiss my ass.

I don't much care for meat, but I'm going to go eat some beef jerky just to vent my frustration at these asshats.

[uppityperson]

29. I imagine many may not carrot all for PETA, but this is amusing. nt

[Ignis]

84. Well, if no one else will applaud this wordplay...

I sure will. Well played. :thumbsup:

[Matariki]

32. Vegetarian activists should try minding their own business

and let other people eat what they want. I suspect they'd like the same respect for their own dietary choices.

[HuckleB]

38. Apparently they don't like it when anyone questions the sincerity of their choices.

Hypocrisy knows no bounds.

[Ignis]

49. Please provide examples of the "insincerity" of vegetarians' choices.

Evidence gleaned from your crystal ball or telepathy hat is inadmissible, I fear.

[HuckleB]

52. Are you really going to tell me that you've never met a social vegetarian?

I live in a town filled with cliques of vegans and vegetarians. Many people move in and then out of those cliques once they make "decisions" that don't fit the dogma. A lot of it is social separation, of the kind we all went through in high school.

Heck, one can see some very insincere, drama-based anger toward this end on this very board.

[Ignis]

61. So no examples, then? It must be a very rare phenomenon!

Or perhaps one shouldn't extrapolate mens rea from the behavioral characteristics of a small sub-set of a larger population.

For example, some Democrats act like utter and complete assholes to others solely because of their dietary choices, but I would never think to make the argument that all Democrats are assholes.

[HuckleB]

63. ROTFLMAO!

Apparently, honest discourse is not your thing.

[Ignis]

66. Still no examples? What a pity! I guess that makes 3 apologies you owe me.

I'll take an IOU if your Bank of Honesty is all tapped out at present, though.

[HuckleB]

71. That's funny.

Keep...

[Ignis]

80. Your inability to cite examples does indeed invoke Bathos.

But wouldn't it be more honest to simply provide support for your assertions?

[superduperfarleft]

81. Anti Wal-Mart activists should try minding their own business

and let other people shop where they want.

Anti-Hummer activists should try minding their own business and let other people drive what they want.

Anti-Republican activists should try minding their own business and let other people vote for whom they want.

Etc., etc., etc.....

[Matariki]

90. See. You are proving my point.

[conscious evolution]

48. I have to wonder if PETA has been

taken over by Cointelpro people.The stuff they do is so ineffective and counterproductive to their cause I just have to think this being directed by people intent on destroying their movement.

[tonysam]

78. Their "cause" is all about banning animal domestication.

It's not that they have been "taken over" by any group; they've always been this crazy.

[Ignis]

82. False, unsupported, and disproven claim.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=7407539&mesg_id=7407842

[superduperfarleft]

85. You're wrong. As you were the last thousand times you've posted this.

But run along and don't bother to post any evidence for your claims, as usual.

[Ignis]

88. If I posted "the secret agenda" of any other group without a shred of support...

It'd be deleted so fast it'd make your head spin.

But for some reason, The Protocols of the Elders of PETA is kosher. Who knew? :shrug:

[superduperfarleft]

89. I think it's interesting how one of the admins here is supposedly vegan

And yet trash like this is allowed to be posted right and left.

[JanMichael]

54. Good for them. Sometimes it takes a wild act to get past the ubiquitous meat ads...

...like Taco bell, Wendy's, McDonald's, Burger King, Hardees, Arby's, Zaxby's, etcerabees. Just count the ads in a 24 hour period in any part of this land.

Those companies, and meat companies like the one owned by that turd repuke in Georgia (Tyson?), spend an unimaginable amount of money to convince people practically from early childhood (Happy Meal?) that meat is splendiforious just don't mind the production values and treatment of animals. Enjoy just ignore the process that brought that juicy meat to you mouth. It isn't your concern.

Why shouldn't a group that is totally outspent from time forgotten not try some shock tactics?

I love it.

[Dark]

59. Why don't we ask Hannibal Lecter? He should know.

nt

[hayu_lol]

70. When the 'Broccoli Brigade' marches...

some of us 'bite' their 'heads' off.

We exist as survivors because our ancestors ate meat, anything else that walked, crawled, flew, or squirmed. The BBC'ers tend to forget this.

In a perfect world, which it ain't, maybe their path to rightousnous would work.

Be interesting to see some stats from the BB showing life/death estimates...I'm sure PETA has some available.

Early arrivals on this continent used to spend days hunting the Woolly Mammoths so that they could have a month-long BBQ.

[LWolf]

68. Those faces don't look offended. nt

[Solly Mack]

73. Lettuce entertain you. Lettuce make you smile

I couldn't resist

[upi402]

76. art is good

brave folks there, thanks for the service work!
:patriot:

[Name removed]

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[superduperfarleft]

83. I find PETA's exploitation of women disgusting.

As a vegan, I regret that they seem to represent the face of veganism and animal rights to the public (especially since I'd argue that they are far from an animal right organization).

But I also don't buy the insincere outrage on the part of the concern trolls in this thread. No one here gives a shit about exploitation of women, they just like to poke vegans.

[shedevil69taz]

86. free to advocate

anything they want just as I am free to admire thier bodies they freely display and completely ignore thier advice to give up meat

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

91. stick to the salad bras, but I saw some awsome anti-meat protestors in London

I was in a fancy restaurant in London when anti-meat protesters "raided" the dining room, screaming into bullhorns, knocking over tables and what-not. They were squirting some brown stuff I believe to have been chocolate milk syrup.

Almost in unison a large number of the men in the restaurant got up from their tables, along with guys from the kitchen and began beating the shit out of the protesters and pushing them back to the street, one of the protesters was filming the mayhem when a guy who looked like he should be in a Windsor family portrait grabbed the camcorder and smashed it over the protesters head repeatedly. Everyone then returned to their table and resumed their meal like nothing happened.

It was the coolest thing I have ever seen,

It is like every British male has a soccer hooligan inside who can swing into action at any moment,