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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 03:14 PM
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BREAKING: ACORN Announces Intentions to 'Bring Operations to a Close'
Source: BRAD BLOG



BREAKING: ACORN Announces Intentions to 'Bring Operations to a Close'
'Mission Accomplished' for anti-democracy GOP scam artists...

Just one day after the New York Time's Public Editor Clark Hoyt finally admitting that both he and his paper were "wrong" in the way, for the last six months, they unskeptically and inaccurately covered the Rightwing hoaxsters who released doctored-up, heavily-overdubbed, secretly-taped hit videos targeting the national community organization ACORN, largely for their work in legally registering hundreds of thousands of low-income voters so they could have their voice heard in their own democracy, the group is announcing that they will be "bringing its operations to a close".

We should take the time to note here, since the corporate mainstream media likely will not, that there is no evidence that any vote has ever been cast illegally in any election vis a vis an improper registration by an ACORN worker. Of the very few ACORN workers found to have submitted illegal registrations, almost every one of them was turned into officials by ACORN themselves. Again: no voter ever registered improperly by an ACORN worker has ever cast a single vote in any election.

See link below for their full statement on plans to shut down, as just sent to The BRAD BLOG by ACORN spokesperson Kevin Whelan.

Neither Andrew Breitbart nor James O'Keefe, the partisan propagandists who created and published the scam videos which ultimately helped to destroy the valuable community group could be reached for comment to learn whether or not they planned to target widows and orphans groups next…

FULL STORY, ACORN STATEMENT: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7757

Over the weekend at The BRAD BLOG:

NYT PUBLIC EDITOR FINALLY ADMITS ACORN 'PIMP' HOAX REPORTING FAILURE: 'TIMES WAS WRONG, I HAVE BEEN WRONG DEFENDING PAPER'
Clark Hoyt says in Sunday column 'editors considering correction'
Also concedes paper 'should have' covered former MA AG's early-December report finding no criminality in 'heavily edited' sting videos
MUCH MORE, FULL STORY: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7755



Read more: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7757
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 03:15 PM
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1. So sad.
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npk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 03:17 PM
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2. Sad day (K&R) n/t
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 03:19 PM
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3. Poor and minority America should rise up in arms over this..
.. and DO something about it!

How much do you want to bet they don't?
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 03:25 PM
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7. Better yet, they should simply re-brand themselves
and come back even stronger, like any good monster.

If they were vindicated, why SHOULD they shut down?

:headbang:
rocktivity
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 03:49 PM
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21. I heard a rumor that is what the plan is
waiting for details--if Blackwater can do it, why not ACORN?

ACORN was innocent!

Blackwater/XE still evil!
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 06:45 PM
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54. for god-damned sake!!! WHY THE FUCK DON'T *YOU* RISE UP??!!
"How much do you want to bet they don't?"

Yeah, being constantly derisive about poor folk is soooooo "progressive".

SHIT!

I'm so sick of the damned DU crap of blaming poor folk, but never having time to do one bit about poverty your own damned selves.

Look into your gilt-edged mirror.

Yeah, you suceeded in pissing me off.

Congrats.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 07:19 PM
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65. +1
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 05:48 AM
Response to Reply #54
97. +100!
Maybe SOMEDAY people like the one you responded to will "get it".
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 07:29 AM
Response to Reply #54
100. just sayin..
.. where's the outrage and the uprising?

It was there in the sixties.
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madville Donating Member (743 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 07:01 PM
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61. They all might be busy celebrating their new Health Care options
It's not everyday that several years down the road one might be eligible for subsidies so they can purchase for profit insurance they won't be able to afford to use. :evilgrin:
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 07:22 PM
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67. Poor and minority? For cripes sake...we all need to get up in
Edited on Mon Mar-22-10 07:29 PM by ooglymoogly
arms about this vicious and crass behavior; What the hell is this "they" crap. Corpmedia is trampling the constitution and all our rights and for obvious reasons. I can't for the life of me understand why we have not got far more angry about this than we have. It effects ALL OF US. "They" are us.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 07:59 PM
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69. ""They" are us." Thank you. This dissing and dismissing of poor folk is .....
....................

There's no adequate discription of it.

Thank you. :yourock:
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 11:33 PM
Response to Reply #3
79. Why poor and minority?
:shrug: This doesn't exactly help our argument that ACORN wasn't one sided.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 07:52 PM
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108. "wasn't one-sided"?
Is there something wrong with a group being "one-sidedly" on the side of the poor?

It's sickening that anyone in this part is still so intimidated by Reagan's ghost that they still think we have to distance ourselves from the poor.
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 05:09 AM
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95. it's hard
to "rise up" when you've been beaten down for so long. I don't know if you meant to, but you sound like an inconsiderate ass...

:shrug:

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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 05:47 AM
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96. Well, because unlike you, we don't assume the poor are a dead loss
n/t.
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SPedigrees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 03:21 PM
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4. Terrible loss. nt
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 03:22 PM
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5. I remember when this was first reported all I read here @ DU was how it was a lie.
It appears that when DUers hate the source they hate the news.

When they love the source they believe the news.

This is sad though,
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 03:42 PM
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18. Speak for yourself...dude.
"It appears that when DUers hate the source they hate the news.

When they love the source they believe the news."


It appears some DUers think we are all alike. (Note the word "some". try using it sometime)
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 03:47 PM
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20. Note the words (Lighten Up Francis. Get a grip and chillax.) Try doing it most of the time.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 10:59 PM
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78. Yes indeed. But quite a few of us do not do that
Watch as we get vilified with "But Famous Person said..............." I mean, how dare we look at actual facts and logic?
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 12:29 AM
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87. History of the ACORN Vindication and Exposure of Right-Wing Big Lie:
Edited on Tue Mar-23-10 12:29 AM by Hissyspit
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7992502

Congressional Report CLEARS ACORN, Says 'Sting' Operator Broke Laws: http://bit.ly/bmzCOK

ACORN CLEARED in Massachusetts; Mass AG Independent Investigation Finds NO PATTERN OF ILLEGAL CONDUCT; Questions Selectively Edited Videos: http://bit.ly/8ExqAd

ACORN Workers CLEARED in NYC: http://bit.ly/9wQiWc

Federal Judge Orders Funding RESTORED to ACORN, Attempt to Cut was Unconstitutional: http://bit.ly/c7QrFl

NYT Editor APOLOGIZES for Their Bad Reporting Against ACORN: http://bit.ly/acJndD

Voter Fraud NOT REAL Issue: http://bit.ly/9OZAP2

O'Keefe Faces Lawsuit For Illegally Taping ACORN Worker in PA: http://bit.ly/aqcC02

Breitbart Confirms He Was DUPED by O'Keefe and ACORN Pimp Hoax: http://bit.ly/92Zj8x

Police Report Filed by ACORN Exposes FALSE Claims by O'Keefe & Giles: http://bit.ly/uiXlo

Fox News IGNORES ACORN Ruling: http://bit.ly/aR9WAH
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 03:23 PM
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6. shit
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 04:17 PM
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27. +1 If you mean this is bad news.
Edited on Mon Mar-22-10 04:18 PM by Mithreal
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 03:27 PM
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8. Hopefully, an even more effective organization will rise from the ashes.
This time they are going to have to be on the defensive at every level. It's a shame but when you are up against the kind of scum the pukes employ, you have to be ready for the worst.

I would also love to see some video of Teabagger headquarters. I'm sure you could get outrageous footage without editing at all.
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LiberalLovinLug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 01:01 AM
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110. Whatever rises will no doubt be targeted
Whether its called husk or pod or kernel, it will be viciously attacked and accused of all the fake innuendo regarding 'voter fraud' that Acorn was.

Its a mistake not to publicly clear its name BEFORE rebranding. Otherwise FAUX News will simply jump over like a parasitic bug that it is, and assume, for the public, that any new organization is just as guilty as the monster FAUX and the rest of the wingnut noise machine had previously created.

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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 03:28 PM
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9. I don't get it
The judge has ordered congressional funding be resumed. Why is Eric Holder fighting against it?

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/3/12/judge_instructs_fed_agencies_to_resume
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 04:05 PM
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25. ACORN mentioned that in an interview after the judge called
the vote unconstitutional. The spokesperson said that the DOJ was figthing the judge's order.

All this change we are getting is too much for me to handle.

Don Siegelman abandoned, while Stevens is off the hook.

ACORN's funds taken away, while Democrats continue to vote for funds for murderous Mercenary Contractors.

And while War Criminals are allowed to go free and are rewarded.

And big Insurance Corps who caused the deaths of untold numbers of Americans, get a giant windfall from Democrats yesterday.

But ACORN, who helps the poor, is destroyed, with their help.
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 05:46 PM
Response to Reply #25
50. you said it better than I could
and the banksters that robbed us thru Wall Street get bigger salaries and not even Lehman Brothers who cooked their books get a subpoena? Just thinking about it makes my heart hurt.:dilemma:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 12:20 AM
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85. Great points . . . and I think you've outlined a reality
Edited on Tue Mar-23-10 12:20 AM by defendandprotect
which many of us just don't want to see . ..

there's a message in there and it's absolutely the reverse of what

we want it to be!!

Too much like this going on to be accidental -- !!

:eyes:
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 03:28 PM
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10. I'm sure they will refound under a new name.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 03:37 PM
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14. Yes they will, and they will get funding.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 03:58 PM
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22. I'm sure they will refound under a new name.

Hey it worked for Blackwater! (or did it?) but they got Xe.

there are other vowels to but with an X.

Xu? No wait, that's a Vietnam currency (worth 1/100th of a dong!!! Yikes!)

Xi is the letter Ξ in the greek alphabet

and XO is an abbreviation for "executive officer"

But there's still

Xa

and

Xy

to choose from!
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 04:18 PM
Response to Reply #10
28. One should be sure only about facts, not expectations...
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 12:21 AM
Response to Reply #10
86. Was wondering about that ... hope you're right!
Quite an extensive network I imagine built up over a long period of time --


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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 03:31 PM
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11. "whether or not they planned to target widows and orphans groups next…" Well,
orphans are dicks anyway. Always asking for handouts and whatnots. Don't even get me started on widows. If they married rich in the first place then they'd get a nice fat inhertitance. :banghead: :argh:
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 03:41 PM
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16. And they don't have insurance coverage either, irresponsible
as they are, making us have to pay for them. :sarcasm:

Sad to say, I had to add that sarcasm tag, as yesterday in defense of this Insurance Bill that everyone is celebrating, I saw people here on DU agree with that assessment.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 04:01 PM
Response to Reply #11
23. Don't even get me started on widows.
I'm sure 9/11 widows are a possible target.... again.
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pundaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 02:16 AM
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94. Do those 9/11 widows include the ones generated by actions in Afghanistan and Iraq?
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 03:32 PM
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12. Well that sucks, the so called "fourth estate" dependent on the First Amendment for survival
kills champions of the people's democracy, what an irony.

Thanks for the thread, BradBlog.

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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 08:57 PM
Response to Reply #12
72. Irony is SOP. Has been since Reagan.
Ok, Nixon.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 03:37 PM
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13. Where are the Democrats in Congress wo participated and voted
with Republicans to help bring this about?

And where are the Liberal Groups, or where WERE they while all this was happening?

Congress was judged to be in violation of the Constitution when they cast that vote of betrayal without a shred of evidence or even a request to slow down and at least investigate. A rudimentary investigation would have revealed what a scam it was. No one, not the media OR Congress can pretend they did not know that ACORN was being set up by proteges of the country's worst, Machiavellian anti-Democratic operative, Karl Rove.

There should be huge ramifications for this injustice. The harm it will do to so many millions of poor people, the voiceless who cannot fight these vicious, evil powerful organizations. We depende on OUR party to do that, but instead they joined with them.

I think I will be truly finished with this party if they do not speak out and start raising funds to compensate ACORN for the losses their actions caused them.

They've won every battle to prove their innocence of the phony charges against them. Where is Obama? He was full of praise for them until they came under attack from the right, and then, which becoming a habit with this party, he 'distanced' himself, rather than stand up and fight for people who helped get him elected.

There is simply no justice in this country anymore. That BAD GUYS WIN every time, and it seems, always with the help of Democrats.

I'm going to call a few of those shameful Congressmembers who are responsible for this. They were able to hand over billions of dollars in profits to a corrupt industry yesterday, but they took away a miserable $3 million a year from people who actually used the money to help the poor.

I hope this doesn't affect the lawsuit ACORN filed against O'Keefe, Giles and Breitbart.

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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 04:04 PM
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24. Where are the Democrats in Congress wo participated and voted with Republicans
Still in Congress.

Next question....
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 04:08 PM
Response to Reply #24
26. I know they are in Congress. My question was
related to where they are on this issue, after the ruling by the judge that they were in violation of the Constitution when they joined Republicans and voted against ACORN. I have not seen one of them apologize for their shameful, unconstitutional behavior.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 04:28 PM
Response to Reply #26
36. Why should they, what are the poor gonna do, organize?
I know, this is all insanity.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 04:43 PM
Response to Reply #36
39. So sadly true.
Congress has cast no votes to defund Blackwater, already found guilty of crimes and corruption. But ACORN is targeted by a bunch of far right loons and they nearly fell over each other as they rushed to vote for that Republican sponsored bill.

How much more are people willing to tolerate I wonder?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 12:39 AM
Response to Reply #39
89. As we see with the HC deform . . . what something looks like - facade, PR - is more
important --

They ran from ACORN, but not from insurance companies --

Love the point about Blackwater -- homicidal murderers for pay --

Please stick around and keep at it -- it's the kind of thinking we need to hear --

What will we tolerate -- ?

I've always thought that liberals/progressives have to organize together as voting

bloc --

Acting individually doesn't make much impact --

Any third party or Plan B discussions are also taboo here --


Keep writing -- I'm sure many are reading it --

:)
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 12:31 AM
Response to Reply #13
88. Agree . . . where, Oh, where are Democrats and Obama ...???
Beautiful bit of writing and thinking . . .


and I have this cheap thought that it's one more liberal organization gone which

doesn't compete for $$ with the other liberal organizaitons?

There should be huge ramifications for this injustice. The harm it will do to so many millions of poor people, the voiceless who cannot fight these vicious, evil powerful organizations. We depende on OUR party to do that, but instead they joined with them.


Been so long since I've heard anything like that, I think I need a good cry!

Especially after the health care deform --

Thanks -- keep at it -- inspiring!!


:applause:
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catbyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 03:41 PM
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15. That's a goddamned shame. I had my first Work/Study job
at an ACORN office.

:cry: :mad:

Maggots.

Diane

Anishnabe in MI
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 03:42 PM
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17. Sickening...and all due to Media ignorance and the Rethuglicans.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 04:20 PM
Response to Reply #17
30. True about the media, but it was Congress who
who did the most damage especially since all but 75 Democrats voted WITH Republicans to destroy them. That action was the final nail in the coffin as it was used by every rightwingnut to 'confirme' that even 'Democraps' couldn't deny their guilt anymore.

Democrats voted for a scam and now that a court has ruled their vote to be unconstitutional, there should be healines and talk show coverage equal to the disgraceful coverage that spread the lies. Not to mention a full apology from Democrats, which might have helped them get some donations again.

Instead Obama' DOJ is trying to block the Judge's ruling in favor of ACORN. Someone tell me why we were worse off with Republicans?
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gtar100 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 12:10 AM
Response to Reply #30
82. And if those same 75 Democrats had any integrity whatsoever they would
turn right back around and vote to return the funds they took away from Acorn. That's what should happen! They acted under false information, now there's no excuse to not know anymore. So are they doing that? Are they? Fuckers! Don't ask me to give them any respect for their office.

And why would Obama's DOJ do that? I just don't get it. Is Obama not really the president? Or is he just a first-rate sellout to wealth and power?

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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 04:21 PM
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31. ... And the cooperation of the spineless Dems
Edited on Mon Mar-22-10 04:23 PM by liberation
A lot of people in the Dem party could not throw ACORN under the bus fast enough, the minute the GOP whisper campaign began.

Funny thing is seeing people placing all sorts of hope on these spineless cowards to effect far harder tasks, like fighting for and improving the current shitty health care "reform" bill in the near future, when they will have absolutely no incentive to do so. Denial in such pervasive scale scares the shit out of me.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 04:25 PM
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34. +1
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 04:21 PM
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32. NO, damnit. Democrats are culpable. HOUSE 345-75, SENATE 83-7
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 04:24 PM
Response to Reply #32
33. In this case, the blame is bipartisan!
I hope Mr. Obama is happy, finally his bipartisan mojo is catching on! Yay!
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 04:25 PM
Response to Reply #32
35. I just mentioned that.
We need to start calling them and demanding that they make a public apology to ACORN.

And Holder is trying to overturn the judge's order against Congress.

Only 75 Dems had the courage to vote against this injustice.

Rep. Grayson, who I was certain would have voted against it, was NOT among the 75.

That was a disappointment also.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 04:35 PM
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37. That doesn't surprise me, the Obama inJustice Dept has nothing better to do.
Grayson isn't perfect - that isn't the only thing btw. I'll take a Dem with guts that occasionally makes mistakes over spineless Dems that couldn't keep their promise to accept nothing less than a comprehensive affordable quality PO available to all. I don't mean to kick them when they are down, but Kucinich should have been standing shoulder to shoulder not hung out to dry and alone. That people attacked DK here I will not soon forget either.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 04:51 PM
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42. It would be hard to forget some of the vicious attacks on
Kucinich. He was assured by 70 Dems that they would not back down on a public option. Then, one by one they all caved leaving him standing alone. The same people who cheered those Dems along, quickly jumped ship and went after Kucinich. Who needs the rightwingnuts anymore?

Re Grayson, he did redeem himself when he joined Nadler, one of the few who refused to vote for that bill, in pointing out that Congress had violated the constitution when they passed that bill. I never knew he himself had voted for it at that time.

His interest though was in the Defense Contractors, and he pointed out that if ACORN was to be defunded without even an investigation, the every single Defense Contractor would have to be also. That is what the Constitution requires, that no Corp. or individual can be singled out without an investigation for this kind of targeting.

I hope he says something about this. But it seems that Dems will be just as happy to see ACORN go as Republicans are.

I wonder who will be signing up the one million new voters ACORN was responsible for, next November?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 12:43 AM
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91. I hadn't heard the decision that Congress move was "Unconstitutional" . . .but shocked
to hear what Holder is doing!!!

Do you remember seeing an article on this here ?

I guess guns and no health care have been too big a distraction?

Kucinich and Howard Dean - anyone who criticizes Dems -- !!
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 01:20 AM
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93. I don't remember any such article about Holder.
Wouldn't be surprised in the least if it was buried under unrecs, you know, just enough to keep from becoming more visible.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 11:40 AM
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102. Yes . . .we have to keep the "Happy Talk" going . . . !!
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 08:59 PM
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74. media COMPLICITY
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 12:41 AM
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90. Sickening, but IMO purposeful destruction by the right wing . . .
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 03:43 PM
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19. The height of injustice!
Fuck the NYT! Fuck Fox News! Fuck Breitbart and all the Teabaggers!
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 04:20 PM
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29. This is a bigger tragedy for America than I think many people realize.
It brings me to tears. :(
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western mass Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 04:36 PM
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38. Can't say the Democrats never accomplished anything
Yes, I do blame the congressional Democrats who collaborated with the GOP in bringing down a liberal organization. This farce wouldn't have happened without their support.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 04:46 PM
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41. Technically I think they are apolitical, but doing anything to help those who need it, is liberal
today.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 05:03 PM
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44. well, inverted totalitarianism HAS to be bipartisan
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 05:11 PM
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46. do post your evidence for that claim. I won't hold my breath, dear.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 05:25 PM
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47. house votes to defund acorn..
Democratic:
Ayes - 172
Nays - 75
Present - 2
No vote - 6

http://biggovernment.com/publius/2009/09/17/final-vote-results-for-roll-call/
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 05:44 PM
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49. 75 votes is not even the entire Progressive Caucus, but my Rep was one of the noes.
Indeed, a number of the Massachusetts reps were, even Lynch. Not Delahunt, though. And, Frank did not vote at all.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 05:36 PM
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48. No need to hold it at all.
Edited on Mon Mar-22-10 05:40 PM by sabrina 1
Democrats voted with Republicans (where have I heard that before?) on a Republican sponsored bill to defund ACORN based only on the phony, doctored video tapes produced by those paragons of virtue, James O'Keefe, his rightwing wacko lunatic employer, Breitbart who cheered when Ted Kennedy died and wished him all kinds of horrors in the hereafter, and the 'prostitute' rightwingnut, Hannah Giles.

They couldn't get there fast enough to join Republicans like Daryl Issa in taking away the funds allotted to ACORN for the work they do with the poor.

172 shameful votes from Democrats, later ruled to be unconstitutional, the bill passed quickly, quicker than any bill that might do some good for the American people.

Only 75 Democrats voted 'no'.

That vote escalated the media coverage of the scam, removed funding and caused a drop in donations as it validated the lies told by scum from the far right fringes.

IF you want proof, it's easy to find, along with a list of our Congressional Heroes, always fighting for our best interests.

I better use this :sarcasm: just in case. People are so gullible these days -

http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/09/could-acorn-defunding-bill-strike-military-industrial-complex/

House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-VA) praised the result, calling it a victory for a “united Republican effort.” The Associated Press referred to it as a “GOP-led strike.”

However, while the GOP managed to get 173 of its members to vote in favor of the measure, Democrats who crossed over almost made up the majority of the support, with a full 172 voting "aye" alongside the GOP.

A House roll call on the vote is available here.


So much bi-partisanship going on ..... when it's dumping good people like Van Jones or ACORN or the base of the party. Dems always seem to agree with Republicans on these matters. Women too, and Gays. Not so much when it's about Corporate interests though.



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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 04:46 PM
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40. I wonder if they can file a lawsuit against the times for willful neglect or something?
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 04:54 PM
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43.  I don't know. Maybe that's why the Times
apologized. People had suggested a lawsuit against them. I think they should sue Fox and CNN who joined the smear campaign before they leave.

They do have a lawsuit filed against O'Keefe, Giles and Breitbart. I hope this won't stop that. Maybe it will help, as they can certainly claim they suffered great harm now.
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 05:04 PM
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45. Repubs and their disruptor pal got their wish
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 06:25 PM
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51. RIP Acorn!
You served us well. Now on to bigger and greater.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 06:26 PM
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52. This is not Right.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 06:39 PM
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53. It looks like the administration is happy to bite the hand that feeds them if it isn't corporate.
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wial Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 06:50 PM
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55. I take it NY Times and the Obama justice dept
will pick up where ACORN has been forced to leave off? Oh? They won't?

At least NY Times will have a headline trumpeting their own culpability and apologizing profusely to the poor they have disenfranchised? No?

Well, the right wing is honorable enough to feel some remorse over this, after all, human suffering is human suffering, and who wants to make more... what? they're proud?

wonderful. remind me again why we left the oak forests in the first place.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 07:21 PM
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66. +1
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 12:46 AM
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92. Think the NY Times will also be folding soon . ..
in act, just a few years ago, it sounded like the guy -- son? -- running it now

couldn't wait!!

You could say our "free press" is now more a matter of CIA and Pentagon dictates --

CIA and Pentagon "journalists" --

And, Congress has continued to refuse to bar CIA from this practice!

OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD --

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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 06:51 PM
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56. They've been cleared of any wrong doing...ever plus are eligible for federal funding again so why
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 06:52 PM
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57. Why is this fantastic organization, which has done more to combat poverty and register voters
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 06:53 PM
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58. Why are they calling it quits...or are they just breaking down into regional groups?
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 06:55 PM
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59. A huge loss for democracy to lose ACORN due to propaganda and lies of big money.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 06:58 PM
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60. It should've been a mandate that all congress be associated with this pure example of democracy
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 07:06 PM
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62. Why doesn't MOVE ON or somebody start a fund-raising campaign.
I'm always good for a couple of bucks.
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SocialistLez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 07:14 PM
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64. I donated a few days back

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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 08:02 PM
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70. Moveon sold out long ago
They take their orders from the Party now and the Party dumped ACORN, so the so-called Liberal groups were not going to go against the party. They might lose access and funding.

There was also a problem with people, even here, having fallen for the propaganda, especially after Democrats in Congress gave O'Keefe, Giles and Breitbart their stamp of approval. People weren't sure what to believe.

But now there are no more questions about the criminality and deception of the O'Keefe mob so there should be no reason for Democrats to come out with a statement slamming these people and helping to turn the tables on them. But for some reason, their goals are different to ours. They don't seem to mind keeping these Rovian operatives around and rarely if ever stand up for anyone who comes under attack from them.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 07:12 PM
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63. That's disappointing
Edited on Mon Mar-22-10 07:14 PM by Proud Liberal Dem
I hope that they come back in the not-so-distant future. That would really be the ultimate FU to O'Keefe,Giles, and the rest of the GOP smear artists (which is pretty much all of them) that helped bring them down. And shame for all those Democrats in Congress that got caught up in the heat of the moment and went along with the GOP's campaign to discredit them. Next time I would hope that they would not allow themselves to get taken in so far by scam artists like O'Keefe, Giles, et. al.

I wonder who the right wingers are going to blame now whenever they lose elections? :shrug: :eyes: Not themselves, I'm sure.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 07:24 PM
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68. +1 Getting taken in by the likes of these is part of their job though
I like your sig too.
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 08:04 PM
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71. if bad things happen in threes, what will be the third one this week?
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gleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 08:58 PM
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73. That's a damn shame. They will be sorely missed. n/t
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 09:23 PM
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75. The pukes accomplished their goal, THOUSANDS will suffer, and no one will pay for this
another Puke coup pulled off in the middle of the night while America slept and all we have to show for it is an apology by the 'paper of record' on the eve of the elimination of Acorn.


No one will pay, and we will, as usual, sit quietly by and wait for the next coup. We're too good to stoop to their level, while they chip away at our foundations. This is OUR fault as Democrats for allowing these fuckers to do what they please as much as it is the Pukes doing.


I am so angry over this. And you people chastise me over calling out Freepers over the condition of their teeth while America loses a great minority assistance agency.

Fuck it.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 10:27 PM
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76. Sad. n/t
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 10:42 PM
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77. So
the bad guys won, and the poor lose again.
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gtar100 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 11:57 PM
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80. This just breaks my heart.
There is no leadership *whatsoever* in our government to stop this tragedy. It's AS IF all the democrats are going right along with the republicans with the lie about Acorn. When shit like this happens, what I feel for America is shame.

In this country corporations are given the rights of people and community organizers who work to end poverty are discarded. How about a big FUCK YOU to the American right wing fascists - a.k.a. republicans, a.k.a. conservatives - who in their own willful ignorance are unleashing a depression on this country the likes we've never seen.

Imbeciles - from the five idiot judges who make a joke of the "Supreme" Court, to our two-faced president who tells us to fight for the public option all the while making back room deals with the health insurance lobby, to all those spineless weasel Democrats in the Senate who are playing us for fools, to the rotten filth of a cesspool that is the republican party.

Our country is so screwed up in regards to everything that organizes us into a nation. Our politics, our business environment, our agriculture, our industry, our health care, our educational system -all are corrupt and completely out of sync with the natural order of life. Fascism, pure and simple, is being laid upon us. They may not call it that, they may not even intend for it, but it keeps creeping up on us one step at a time. Now it's so close they don't even pretend.

Just remember all those empires that fell in the past - gone!! So don't go getting all high and mighty just because you say this is America. We are run by a bunch of short-sighted, selfish, and overpaid CEOs who are abusing the capitalist system to the point of breaking it. Just too damn bad it's your family and my family that have to suffer because of their arrogance.

The masses suffer because of the actions of a self-serving gentry, very small in numbers. And religion works to pacify the ensuing anger of the people who carry the burden caused by the indulgences of this self-described aristocracy. We, the common people, are pacified by the promise of a great reward for our suffering after death. How convenient a setup is that!?!
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 12:04 AM
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81. K & R
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 12:13 AM
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83. the crooks win, america loses
makes the DLC look decent
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 02:01 PM
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104. So the conservadems and New Dems didn't vote for this?
I don't understand your distinction, it seems they went along for the ride.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 12:14 AM
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84. This is a shame, but it didn't happen without the assistance of the Democrats . . .
Amazing that they could throw away such a pro-Democratic Party organization ?

Doesn't make any sense unless you're looking to court failure?

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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 07:12 AM
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98. THANKS DEMS
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 07:23 AM
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99. The national Dem party and Obama's Justice Dept are complicit in this.
They did, and are doing, as much to kill this organization as anyone.

Change we... well, we all get it now.
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pundaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 09:39 AM
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101. It makes sense to stop signing up voters until there is a party primarily concerned with
the People. The difference between D-corporatist and R-corporatist makes voting superfluous.
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 12:21 PM
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103. Triumph of the Big Lie

It's why they keep using it. It's important that the truth of just how dishonest the attacks on ACORN were be emphasized. Eventually, it will sink into the public consciousness that ACORN was hated and attacked because it was an example of an effective public advocacy group. Eventually, every organization not based on monied interest or religion, may not be subject to widespread fear and suspicion. Eventually.
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 02:03 PM
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105. Does anyone know about this?
Edited on Tue Mar-23-10 02:11 PM by florida08
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 04:39 PM
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107. The DOJ is filing an appeal, that seems relevant
The Department of Justice is filing an appeal of the District Court’s decision and seeking a stay pending appeal, and we will keep agencies informed of any developments. In the meanwhile, in accordance with the District Court’s permanent injunction:

I would like to know more about that appeal.
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PatrynXX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 02:10 PM
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106. Sent an email to my Senator (a dem) congress was Dem when I left Acorn to fend for itself
I hold Congress Resposible for fucking this up. The senator was Tom Harkin. Whether he voted to defund or not, they are at fault here. Hopefully (yeah right) they can bring criminal charges against Fox Gossip Channel and the NYT for spreading this hoax.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 07:55 PM
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109. Fox will bring the Fairness Doctine and Equal Time back
and I hope they keep it up so when we finally get an opposition party back - we can reinstate media balance. They clearly will not do it themselves.
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