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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 08:34 AM
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There is plenty wrong with the medical insurance bill, but
nothing about it is even *remotely* socialist.

Just saying.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 08:35 AM
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1. Yeah, it's a corporatist bill, not socialist at all
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 09:00 AM
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5. A corporatist bill that requires then to insure everyone, does not allow them
to drop coverage, and keeps kids on their parents insurance? There is also a provision to create a health care exchange, a marketplace where uninsured individuals and small businesses can comparison shop for insurance policies. That should lower some costs. This is a bill that helps millions of Americans, not just insurance companies.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 09:07 AM
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6. LOL
:rofl: Yeah. Riiiight.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 09:09 AM
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 09:11 AM
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9. Just so you know...
I'm not. It has nothing whatsoever to do with you. :)
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 05:19 PM
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12. It would probably be against the rules for me to agree with you, lol,
so I won't.

There are at least 3 of them IMHO. They take turns.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 05:23 PM
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15. ixion is many things
...Among them, I believe, sincere.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 11:33 AM
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10. requires them to insure everyone...
except for about 24 million, about 9% of the population. Interesting how 9% can be outrageously high when talking about unemployment, but so comfortingly low when talking uninsured.

does not allow them to drop coverage...

as they did before - but they are looking for all kinds of loopholes to drop coverage under the new rules. And they have some of the best, most highly paid lawyers in the country working on it.

create a health care exchange, a marketplace where uninsured individuals and small businesses can comparison shop...

between different divisions of the cartel, which still sets the prices, and is intent on maintaining their profits.

If this is so bad for the insurance companies, why are their stock prices going up?

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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 05:21 PM
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13. Where in the law does it specifically state that those 24 million are to be
denied access to medical care? And how will they be chosen? Death panels?

Please do provide a credible link with provable numbers and not just rank speculation.
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 05:16 PM
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11. all the wing nuts railing against socialism ove rthis bill are as clueless
as any group ever has been about anything in the history of language.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 05:30 PM
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17. That must be some strong kool aid you've got there! n/t
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 08:47 AM
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2. well, it was passed by Democratic legislators,
therefore it is a socialist freedom-ending anti-American money waster that will take away our guns...regardless of any actual content


Don't you realize? Providing even the slightest access to healthcare for low-income families is the work of the Devil! It will clearly take away all our chances of achieving the American Dream of rising from poverty and becoming rich and white and Christian.


(Please note that the American Dream is not available to non-whites or non-Christians).
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 08:56 AM
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3. Of COURSE it's "socialist".
...as are things like the federal highway system, public fire departments and municipal water treatment.

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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 12:49 PM
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18. with the minor difference that those are publically owned non-profit entities
while the insurance companies are private for-profit enterprises, of course.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 08:58 AM
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4. It's socialist all right..
But the socialism is for the health insurance industry..

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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 09:11 AM
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8. you got that right. not even remotely socialist
my angry brother is finally starting to figure it out and is thinking of buying health ins. stocks.

its a windfall for the insurance companies.
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 05:22 PM
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14. Buy! Buy! Buy!
It's all about the money. The Money! Money! Money!
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-10 05:28 PM
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16. No shit. It's far right.
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