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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 11:01 AM
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Health bill included big Republican idea: individual mandate
Source: McClatchy

Health bill included big Republican idea: individual mandate

By John Dorschner | Miami Herald

The lawsuit against the health care overhaul filed Tuesday by Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum is focused on a provision that has long been advocated by conservatives, big business and the insurance industry.

The lawsuit by McCollum, a candidate for governor, and 12 other attorneys general, focuses on the provision that virtually all Americans will need to have health insurance by 2014 or face penalties.

The lawsuit calls this an "unprecedented encroachment on the liberty of individuals." It states the Constitution doesn't authorize such a mandate, the proposed tax penalty is unlawful and is an "unprecedented encroachment on the sovereignty of the states."

"The truth is this is a Republican idea," said Linda Quick, president of the South Florida Hospital and Healthcare Association. She said she first heard the concept of the "individual mandate" in a Miami speech in the early 1990s by Sen. John McCain, a conservative Republican from Arizona, to counter the "Hillarycare" the Clintons were proposing.

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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 11:06 AM
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1. Dupe
The whole plan goes back as far as Nixon too....I mean the whole shebang.

The Democrats brought an old rejected Republican idea into law
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 11:07 AM
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2. "The truth is this is a Republican idea,"
The truth is that they never followed through on it, so now its a Democratic idea.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 11:09 AM
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3. Democrats are implementing republican policy
We are now center right. There is no room for the center left much less the true left.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 11:23 AM
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6. that's the sad truth
:(
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 12:11 PM
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10. One of MY options under this mandate is to buy into a nonprofit plan
such as Kaiser, now that they can't shut me out for imagined PEC's (that don't exist) by refusing to process my application.

As long as nonprofit plans are an affordable part of the mix, I am ok with a mandate.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 11:18 AM
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4. Yeah, Republicans like Paul Krugman and the country of Switzerland
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 11:22 AM
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5. I thought Krugman supports single payer or public option?
Edited on Wed Mar-24-10 11:23 AM by dkf
I would not trust any economist who thinks health insurance is more efficient than single payer.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 11:33 AM
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8. Paul Krugman is a former Reagan adviser who hearts "free trade". eom
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 11:24 AM
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7. I posted a question as to where this provision came from...
Of course it sunk like a stone in this Troll littered forum.

It smelled Republican all along.
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followthemoney Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 11:40 AM
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9. So, if only we could have all voted for Republicans years ago...
this bill could have been passed long ago.

The biggest mistake Democrats make is resisting 'good' Republican ideas just to win elections and then passing them, belatedly, into law.

Look how long it has taken to do what 'needs' to be done in Afghanistan and Pakistan; and Obama is pushing for war against Iran and may get it soon. Without the resistance from Democrats the war in Iran could have been started and been over with by now, just like in Iraq.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 12:16 PM
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11. Sucks on toast
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