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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:09 PM
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Lawmakers Eyeing National ID Card
Lawmakers Eyeing National ID Card


Lawmakers are proposing a national identification card — what they’re calling “high-tech, fraud-proof Social Security cards” — that would be required for all employees in the United States.

The proposal by Sen. Charles Schumer (D-New York) and Sen. Lindsay Graham (R-South Carolina) comes as the states are grappling to produce another national identification card at the behest of the Department of Homeland Security. Virtually none of the states are in compliance with this Real ID program — adopted in 2005 — requiring state motor vehicle bureaus to obtain and internally scan and store personal information like Social Security cards and birth certificates for a national database.

Homeland Security officials pointed to the Sept. 11 hijackers’ ability to get driver’s licenses in Virginia using false information as justification for the proposed $24 billion Real ID program. Schumer and Graham point to illegal immigration as cause for their plan.

“We would require all U.S. citizens and legal immigrants who want jobs to obtain a high-tech, fraud-proof Social Security card. Each card’s unique biometric identifier would be stored only on the card; no government database would house everyone’s information,” they said. “The cards would not contain any private information, medical information or tracking devices. The card would be a high-tech version of the Social Security card that citizens already have.”

Read More http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/03/two-id-cards/#ixzz0j7fj60fv
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:11 PM
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1. yeah, right
Go look at the promises made about SS numbers when the original legislation was passed.

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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:11 PM
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2. Two people that I would never trust -- Schumer and Graham. I don't like it.
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:12 PM
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3. So when does the cheerleading start?
I'm gonna go vomit.
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:13 PM
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4. by the same people who think that Chuck "Wall Street's Best Friend" Schumer is a progressive.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:15 PM
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6. Good ol chuckie cheese.
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:15 PM
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7. Thats probably a lot of people
Around here at least. People see a D next to the name and will support whatever.
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:18 PM
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8. Especially since he's a social liberal....
...it makes them think he's not corporate.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:14 PM
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5. Sounds like a bad idea. Don't know why they can't refine the E-verify system for work authorization
which already works very well, though not perfectly. It may give illegal employers a little more wiggle room to argue that they didn't know someone was an illegal immigrant (there are still flaws in E-verify), but it avoids the problems that go with a national ID.
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:21 PM
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10. Yep. That's sounds reasonable.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:19 PM
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9. Better idea...read CIA warning memos instead of going on vacation...n/t
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:22 PM
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11. Well we gotta stop them illegals from working!
It's such a serious matter of national security, you know.

I thought 911 was no longer being used to prop stuff like this. Guess I was wrong.

The hijackers could still get on a plane today - the ones who were still legally here and who could therefore have gotten drivers' licenses.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:25 PM
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12. Why a new card? What is wrong with the passport?
Just require everyone to get passports.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:27 PM
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13. Weren't these supposed to be implemented by 08, but met too much resistance?
... if I recall?
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:36 PM
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14. A national I.D. card. Will we need it to cross state lines, how about roadblock checks ....

to find terriorists and assorted radicals?

Sorry.

I don't trust Big Brother.

Has President Obama weighed in on this yet?
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:38 PM
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15. I believe he opposed it in the senate but as we all know his past actions and statements mean little
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 02:39 PM
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16. Indeed...NEVER trust Big Bro
Those at work within the apparatus haven't our best interests in mind at all. At. All.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 03:02 PM
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17. Your paperz, pleeze! nt
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