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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 12:22 AM
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Why aren't the police charging these terrorists?
This blows my mind. A man tells Cleaver he is going to be shot and isn't charged with a crime?

A caller to U.S. Rep. Emanuel Cleaver’s office warned that if the congressman voted for the health care bill, he would get “a bullet to the head.”

A different man called fellow Democratic U.S. Rep. Dennis Moore four days before Sunday’s historic vote and warned that if Moore voted “yes,” the caller would drive to Moore’s house, park outside and cause unspecified problems.

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Rotert said the Kansas City FBI office has investigated the death threat made against Cleaver and traced it to an Independence businessman through the use of caller identification on the congressman’s Kansas City office phone.

Rotert said the FBI determined that the caller did not intend to carry out the threat and that the matter has been dropped.

However, that wasn’t the only sign of violence directed at Cleaver. Rotert said a man broke a window at Cleaver’s congressional office near 31st Street and Broadway about two weeks ago.

“Police said there was no intent to rob because the hole was so small,” Rotert said.

But Rotert said all the activity, both locally and nationally, has caused the congressman to hire private security at his own expense for his Kansas City home while he’s away.

“Because of the visibility of the house and because people know where it’s at, it’d be easy to drive by … and do something stupid,” Rotert said.

Rotert said Cleaver’s office had received a dramatic rise in what Rotert called “violent” phone calls that have begun to taper off in the wake of Sunday’s vote.

Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2010/03/24/1835058/two-area-congressmen-among-democrats.html#ixzz0jA94HtaN


Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2010/03/24/1835058/two-area-congressmen-among-democrats.html#ixzz0jA8OdwQk
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Naturalist111 Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 12:24 AM
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1. just guessing
but could it be that most of them are Republicans?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 12:29 AM
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6. You guessed it. Laws are only enforced against liberals and minorities.
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my2sense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 12:25 AM
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2. I too am baffled by this lack of response
What will it take for them to start charging these folks? Or, can we depend on law enforcement to confront this nonsense?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 12:30 AM
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7. We cannot, unless someone actually dies. Then their hand is forced and they
cannot fail to pursue an investigation. But for right now, the FBI is only pretending to investigate.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 07:11 AM
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14. Making a threat is not a crime?
A threat against an elected official?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 10:46 AM
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20. I know it is. You know it is. But RW LEO's NEVER enforce those
laws against anyone other than liberals.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 12:25 AM
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3. It's a revolution when peace activist gather on a street corner
The right vandalizes the nation and it's boyhood pranks.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 07:11 AM
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15. So true!
Cleaver comes to our peace rallies. He's such a good guy, this is so scary.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 12:27 AM
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4. ?????? Good question.....
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 12:28 AM
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5. This is what the Secret Service said about 2 twitter threats against the President
Edited on Thu Mar-25-10 12:29 AM by 951-Riverside
"We are aware of the comments and are taking the appropriate investigative action. We respect the right of free speech, but in such instances we have a right and an obligation to ask questions and determine intent."
:mad: :wtf:

http://perezhilton.com/2010-03-23-secret-service-investigates-twitter-threats-against-president-obama
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 12:54 AM
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11. Interesting use of selective bolding there. (nt)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 12:31 AM
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8. General answer, (translation)
the cops most likely filed with the local prosecutor or federal prosecutor depending on jurisdiction and all that.

Matter has been dropped means the prosecutor, not the cops, the PROSECUTOR thought they did not have the evidence or does not want to file charges.

It is not just the cops...
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chollybocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:22 AM
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13. General apology (haiku)
"
most likely and all
that. Matter dropped means the thought
does not want just cops...
"
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Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 12:36 AM
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9. Might be telling us something that
we really don't want to hear.

Terrorists, (and I deplore using such a manipulated term) are sometimes labeled as such because they oppose an unjust agenda. In this case, we see acts that could fall under that term and they are being treated rather mildly.

To not act swiftly and unequivocally on obvious threats to life and safety can be read as complacent and complicit.

On the other hand, consider the potential response if they did clamp down hard on the "militants" who are acting out. It seems like either way, they could be encouraged.

It is really their leaders, (GOP and Media Talking Head Clowns) that bear the onus of sedating the gaggle of angry and unstable goons they have been provoking, or is this a modern form of Fascist Brown Shirt creation?
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my2sense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 01:23 AM
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12. If we wait on the "leaders" of the mob - we are doomed
The Admin has navigated thru some tough ones....I hope they have the wisdom to navigate through this foolishness. What will it take before this is put on lock down?
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 12:46 AM
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10. We need a Democrat Governor with some backbone to pass a law that specifically
categorizes threatening the govt. as "terrorism". All it takes is one for the rest to follow suit. Start making those phone calls to some of our most Liberal congresspeople and Governors to get laws in the books.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 07:13 AM
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17. The governor of MO is a Democrat
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 07:16 AM
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18. those of us who marched in the 60s and spoke of "revolution" might disagree with you
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 10:59 AM
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21. I'm one of them
And no I don't condone violence.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 12:32 PM
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22. neither do I
but do you think those who carried signs calling for resisting the government and revolution in the 60s -- statements that could be perceived as theatening the government -- should have been arrested for those "threats" against the government?

The penalties for threats against the safety and wellbeing of elected officials should be severe. But there is a difference between threatening an indivdual offical and the "government" and I'm loathe to start down the road of criminalizing criticisms of the government.

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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 12:37 PM
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23. Or a democratic governor
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Therellas Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 07:12 AM
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16. because they are working for the same goals?
unwittingly or not.
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 07:16 AM
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19. Maybe if the man was a Muslim, he would get charged,
Sarcastic? Snarky? Sadly, true. I am on a website for people in my and associated with my profession. Sadly, there are political blogs that the right wing zealots have taken over an infected with their bile.
When the army guy shot up Ft Hood, they were all screaming "terrorist" and the liberals on the board were calling into question his sanity and motives, but he wasn't a terrorist (at the time, things were murky).
When we tried to equate Timothy McVeigh and Eric Rudolph with domestic terrorism, we were attacked. These two were "misguided and insane" but not terrorists in their eyes.
Folks, we have seen evil and that evil is amongst us. There WILL be blood shed before November. The right wing noise machine and their appeasers and supporters have that blood on their hands.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 12:41 PM
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24. In other news, brown-skinned sandwich delivery guy forgets extra mayo packets, FBI...
...detains him for 48 hours, grand jury being assembled as we speak.

PB
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