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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 09:35 AM
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Is TPM showing a bias in the OH Senate Race with posts of polling?
Edited on Thu Mar-25-10 09:37 AM by mod mom
I can't believe TPM would show bias in posting of the OH Senate poll results from March 24 by only showing Lee Fisher v Rob Portman when:

1. There are 2 Democratic candidates running and they left out OH SOS (and Progressive) Jennifer Brunner and

2. Jennifer Brunner has an advantage over Lee Fisher when put against Republican Rob Portman

His advantage is 38-37 over Jennifer Brunner and 41-36 against Lee Fisher. When PPP last looked at this race last June Brunner and Fisher led Portman by 8-9 points. The candidates were all just as anonymous then as they are now, but at that point Obama's approval rating was still over 50% and the downward trend in his numbers goes a long way toward explaining Portman's improved standing.

-snip
http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/03/portman-with-small-lead.html

I noticed this am that the popular site TPM has posted the March 24 Poll for OH Senate but has left off Jennifer Brunner. PLS consider contacting Josh Marshall for a correction to this. Here is the only information they show:


PPP (D)

Recent Polls
Mar. 24 OH-SEN Fisher (D) 36.0% Portman (R) 41.0%



http://polltracker.talkingpointsmemo.com/pollsters/ppp-d

PLS consider contacting TPM regarding this. Here is a contact email for Josh:

Joshua Marshall <talk@talkingpointsmemo.com>

Jennifer Brunner, many of you will recall is the OH SOS who took over after the notorious Ken Blackwell and worked hard to correct Ohio's tarnished elections. She is a great progressive who received the 2008 Kennedy "Profiles in Courage Award":

A series of voting irregularities in several major Ohio counties that use electronic voting systems led newly elected Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner to order that paper ballots be provided to any voter who requested one during the state’s March 2008 presidential primary. Furthermore, after a study of the state’s new electronic voting systems – just two years old and representing millions in public investment – found that the systems made by several major voting machine manufacturers could be compromised, Brunner called for the replacement of all of the state’s electronic voting systems with paper ballots and optical scan technology before the November 2008 presidential election. Brunner’s proposal brought pointed and persistent criticism from partisans around the state; opponents of the move objected to the cost and questioned the necessity of returning to paper ballots. For her political courage and her commitment to ensuring the enfranchisement of every Ohio citizen, Jennifer Brunner is honored with the 2008 Profile in Courage Award.

http://www.jfklibrary.org/Education+and+Public+Programs/Profile+in+Courage+Award/Award+Recipients/Jennifer+Brunner/

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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 09:43 AM
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1. Comparing the 2 Democrats: 1 Progressive the other the establishment candidate:
A look at Jennifer Brunner vs. Lee Fisher for the Democratic Primary in Ohio.


Brunner is one of the candidates that shows why we need an organization like Peanut Butter PAC. She has a long history of public service, and in her stump speeches, emphasizes that one of the reasons why she is running for this seat is for public service. With her history of dealing with polling location security problems and upholding the integrity of all the votes in the 2008 election cycle from the schemes of partisan operatives as Secretary of State in which she earned a JFK Profiles In Courage award, and her leadership skills where she created a drug court in 2002 as a judge in the Franklin County Court of Appeals, thereby helping people with substance abuse problems avoid the downfalls of the traditional "get tough" criminal justice system and effectively reducing crime. She is also a well-respected Kossack who has made the rec list with bold statements that the Senate lacks courage, and who has approached this race with a solutions-based approach as shown on her Issues page.
On her issues page, Brunner details how she would tackle various issues as the next Senator from Ohio. As an example of her commitment to jobs, she says on her Jobs page under Issues:

"Others and I have suggested Congress take unspent bailout money and use it for infrastructure jobs in our states. Infrastructure building is one of the most direct ways to get people working again quickly, especially skilled workers in the building trades, which is often called the "tip of the spear" to jobs recovery in any area."
This shows that Brunner "gets it" and it is one of Peanut Butter PAC's aims to fight for jobs and for improving our nation's infrastructure. Her Health Care page is also top-notch where she clearly says that health care access is very important to a strong middle class. And this quote warms my Union-loving heart
"I support the "Employee Free Choice Act" as a means to make a secret ballot vote on collective bargaining the choice of the workers and not the as a stall tactic of some employers who would use it to deny employees collective bargaining rights."
There is even more quote-worthy material that shows that Brunner is a Senator for the People and not for Corporations, which makes her the kind of Democrat we need in Congress.

Looking at Brunner's primary opponent Lt. Gov. Fisher, his main strength is his vast better fundraising when compared to Brunner. Fisher also has the support of Harry Reid, who spoke at a fundraiser for him. He also has the unofficial approval of the DSCC. Basically, he''s the Democratic Establishment Candidate. Fisher doesn't seem to me, by hearing him speak on YouTube and reading his Issues pages and looking at a synopsis of a speech he made recently, to be a Conservadem. Rather, he seems somewhat like a Maria Cantwell(D-WA) or a Mark Warner(D-VA) in that he could vote liberal on a few issues but mostly sticks in the middle and won't challenge the Bayhs, Lincolns or the Baucuses on their view that the Democratic Party needs to be Republican Lite.

Fisher does have three possibly fatal weaknesses if he were the nominee for the Democrats. First, he lacks any sort of charisma or in my opinion, passion in his speech. Politics these days often makes personality a factor, and as we saw in Massachusetts, a very ennui-inducing candidate with a terrible campaign message but a deep war chest cannot win against a populist message and a candidate that is very appealing to voters. Brunner has a clear message and she is well-liked by many on both the left and the right, in contrast. Secondly, Fisher's message is very vague other than saying he's the Jobs candidate and his Issues page on Jobs and the like has nothing but general philosophy statements and what Fisher has done in the past. An uniformed voter might take away from him that he has no idea how to fix the economy, and directly asking the voters for their ideas on how to create jobs was a major faux pas. Since Fisher also quit as Director in Development as Ohio was bleeding jobs left and right, he has no credibility to attack Portman on his actions that made Ohioans lose their jobs to China and to Vietnam. Brunner has no such baggage. And thirdly, most of Fisher's rich friends have maxed out their donations to his campaign, and the DSCC won't be able to excite voters about Fisher. Fisher has actually needed out of state personnel to collect signatures to put himself on the ballot, while Brunner has a energized core of volunteers that will push hard for her. If Fisher spends most of his funds on knocking out Brunner, he'll have to rely on out of state sources for his fundraising and since Portman already has the money advantage over him, Fisher is toast since he also doesn't have the message to beat Portman.

-snip

http://www.progressiveelectorate.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=931A6A6E1E2DAA46906127015B25716F?diaryId=2146
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 10:00 AM
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2. kick
n/t
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 10:14 AM
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3. notified the campaign. unbelievable how thae party elite think they can chose
who represents us. For me, it's either Brunner or green.
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