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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 01:49 PM
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How much better would America be had the 2000 election not been stolen?

In my opinion we would be back on track to a leadership position in the world. We have a long way to go.

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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 01:49 PM
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1. We wouldn't be here talking about all of the assclowns who fucked this country up
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 01:55 PM
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2. you jest with such a question. Not only would we not have
the destruction, we would have made progress as 21st century citizens. Rather than struggling with massive debt, failing infrastructure, and all the rest of the ruin of the past decade, we could a green society with cooperation with more people of the world. Not utopian, but not this desperate struggle to stop the back slide.

The pain of it sometimes overwhelms me and it is hard to get past the sadness.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 01:55 PM
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3. Since Gore was in the habit of listening to Richard Clarke etc, 9/11 plot might have been stopped
EOM
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:04 PM
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14. BINGO
OR AT LEAST NOT HELPED FROM THE INSIDE
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:29 PM
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20. We would also not be in Iraq
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 01:57 PM
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4. Given the powerful orgs the PNACers were beholden to they still would've found a way
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 01:57 PM
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5. We would not be at war for one thing.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 01:57 PM
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6. SCOTUS would be 2/9ths less crooked. nt
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:10 PM
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15. ANOTHER BINGO
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 01:57 PM
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7. For one, Obama wouldn't be President right now....

...and DU wouldn't exist.

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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:01 PM
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10. Itd probably be Bush's second term
Or Guiliani's
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Lord Magus Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 03:17 AM
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24. Not a chance.
Guiliani would have nothing if the 9/11 attacks had been prevented, and Republicans almost never give general election losers a second chance. It probably would've been McCain as the candidate in 2004.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:28 PM
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19. I believe we would still exist but we might be called
Democratic Overground.

Freeperville would've have changed their name to a past tense version, they just don't know it today.
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 01:58 PM
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8. No Bush tax cut would mean we might still be "in danger of paying off the national debt too soon"
Edited on Thu Mar-25-10 02:00 PM by gmoney
And we wouldn't have sunk billions in the war to avenge W's daddy.

No P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act hogwash...

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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:01 PM
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9. The whole world would be different now.
1. I don't believe the 9/11 attacks would have been successful.

2. I don't believe we would be engaged in two protracted wars, wasting our talented youth and destroying our reputation among allies.

3. We would not have the most conservative Supreme Court in a century.

4. The housing bubble and mortgage meltdown would have been mitigated.

5. The rancorous tone of the political landscape would not be nearly as elevated.

Hell, 3 and 4 could have been prevented if we had booted the Shrub in 2004!
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:02 PM
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11. Lets put it this way, Bush/Cheney almost totally destroyed America with their
8 years of wars/stealing/lying/cheating etc. As a mater of fact I would go as far to say that they did immense damage to the world as a whole.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:02 PM
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12. Sucked into the "dark flow"
Maybe what happened in 2000 was our reality was sucked into some mysterious dark flow, as is apparently happening at the edge of the universe.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8016892

It sure has sucked a lot since 2000.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:03 PM
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13. We had too many voters then who bought into the lie that there were no differences between
Democrats and Republicans.

Does anyone really believe that Gore would have done the same things that Bush did? That he would have appointed the same kind of people to the Supreme Court? Now we all have had to live through the history of their misguided choices.
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carolinayellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:12 PM
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16. It gave Republicans the idea that national elections don't count
and now we are stuck with that forever
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philly_bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:19 PM
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17. ** SOB **
How much better would the planet be?
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:23 PM
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18. Oh my God, things would be totally different.
9/11 would probably not have happened. We would be well on the way to being energy independent. Global warming would be addressed and the environment would be healing. We would not be in two illegal and immoral wars and there would be a very small deficit, if there was one at all.

We would have universal healthcare, probably single-payer, in the country. More than 450,000 Americans would not be dead from lack of healthcare.

I could go on and on but I'm getting depressed.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:30 PM
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21. We'll be delousing, debriefing and debushing for at least 20 years.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:34 PM
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22. I can't even think about that anymore
It makes me so sad.
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condoleeza Donating Member (464 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 02:32 AM
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23. Too sad to even go there for me..n/t
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Lord Magus Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 03:22 AM
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25. The scary thing about that scenario
is that LIEberman would've been Vice President. What if he were the 2008 nominee? Then we'd have an (alleged) Democrat taking us down the same road of ruin that Bush/Cheney did, just a few years later.
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 09:13 AM
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26. We'd have several trillion more $$$ in our coffers and no mortgage crisis. nt
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