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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 11:07 AM
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'Scandal hidden in secret vaults' (pope)

http://english.aljazeera.net/focus/2010/03/2010325171515888641.html



Jeff Anderson is one of two lawyers representing five men in the US who have brought lawsuits against the Archdiocese of Milwaukee for failing to take action over cases of alleged child abuse in the church.

The case involves a number of documents including internal correspondence between bishops and the Vatican that claim to show Pope Benedict XVI, then a cardinal, failed to respond to letters warning him about a priest who may have molested 200 deaf boys.

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Al Jazeera: How did you get your hands on these documents?

Jeff Anderson: I had been representing survivors suing Catholic bishops in the US for 25 years.

I demanded the documents and got court orders that required the church to produce them.

In 25 years of compelling the church to turn over documents, this is the first time I have actually received a trail which we knew existed and the documents demonstrate in themselves direct involvement and imposition of secrecy by the Vatican in an abuse case.

This is a direct trail of evidence that goes from the offender abusing 200 kids, to the Archbishop Weakland of Milwaukee, his direct superior.

Archbishop Weakland sought the guidance from the Vatican and contacted Cardinal Ratzinger to ask what to do.

The documents show cardinal Ratzinger's office told him to use secret protocol.

There is a document called Crimen Sollicitationis , which originally drew guidelines for how the church dealt with priests that used the confessional booth to solicit sex from parishioners, even the young.

All clerics were required to keep abuse secret and to impose secrecy on any laity which discovered the abuse.

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Could Pope Benedict be prosecuted for his alleged role in the Milwaukee Archdiocese?

Our hope is that children are protected and until the archbishops and the cardinal and the pope involved in these abuse cases hear a jail door clang behind them, they will continue to be complicit in these crimes.

Our hope is that they clean up but they are not going to get the message until they hear a jail door clang behind them.

They are as responsible as the offenders themselves. The offenders could not control themselves; their superiors could have controlled them.

Where does the Vatican's own system of justice stand within international law?

They have their own canon law which requires secrecy and requires any scandal to be hidden in secret vaults. They also have laws which say crimes against minors and crimes committed within confessional must be secret.

It is in gross violation of international law in any country because their own laws don't give regard to the harm to children.

All their protocols are designed to protect themselves and their reputations.
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can a Nun become a Pope?

the men in the Vatican cannot control themselves.

the Nuns need to take over.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 11:17 AM
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1. I Recall Hearing When This Pope Took Over That He Would Have A Short Term As Pope......
does anybody remember why? What were the predictions where at the time? I heard him referred to as an 'interim pope'. I've also heard that the Catholic Church would be undergoing massive changes in the future and maybe not even have a pope.

Am I dreaming all this stuff up or was this really talked about during the transition after the last Pope died?
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 11:51 AM
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2. According to some weirdness interpretations of Nostradamus
Rat is the last pope - supposedly also verified in the yet-to-be-revealed 3rd prediction of the Lady of Fatima.

WE ARE IN THE END OF DAYS!!!

I hope you are properly terrified.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 12:08 PM
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3. It's not Nostradamus, it's St. Malachy.
In fact, I remember being online when Ratz announced what his Papal name would be, and being shocked that he actually PICKED Benedict, because the Malachy prophecy that refers to this Pope calls him "Gloria Olivae", or "The Glory of the Olive," and the Benedictines are represented by an olive branch. Everyone seemed stunned that he was apparently going along with the prophecy by choosing a name that obviously refers to the Benedictines.

Anyway, after Ratz there's supposed to be one more Pope--"Petrus Romanus", or "Peter of Rome". He's supposed to be the Pope during the tribulation, and then Rome will be destroyed and the world will be judged.

Not that I believe any of this stuff, of course--I just find it all to be extremely entertaining. I pity the next Pope. He's going to have a lot of crazy apocalyptic nutbags to deal with, for sure.

:hi:
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 01:28 PM
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4. Maybe, but give me a few hours with Nostradamus and I guarantee
I will be able to find a passage that clearly states that this guy is the final pope.

I would also be able to find one that says he will be vacationing on the moon, too. That's what I love about Nostradamus.
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