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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 03:22 PM
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Drone Attacks Are Legit Self-Defense, Says State Dept. Lawyer
Drone Attacks Are Legit Self-Defense, Says State Dept. Lawyer

America’s undeclared drone war has been controversial, for any number of reasons: Pakistani politicians have cried foul over “counterproductive” strikes. Critics worry they may create more popular support for militants. And civil liberties groups have asked whether, in effect, it amounts to a program of targeted killing.

Now the State Department’s top legal adviser has offered a rationale for the ongoing campaign: Legitimate self-defense.

In a keynote address last night to the American Society of International Law, State Department legal adviser Harold Koh said it was “the considered view of this administration” that drone operations, including lethal attacks, “comply with all applicable law, including the laws of war.”

Al Qaeda and its allies, he continued, have not abandoned plans to attack the United States. “Thus, in this ongoing armed conflict, the United States has the authority under international law, and the responsibility to its citizens, to use force, including lethal force, to defend itself, including by targeting persons such as high-level al Qaeda leaders who are planning attacks,” he said.

It’s worth giving a closer look at the speech, excerpted here by ASIL. But this is not likely to appease critics of the drone war. Most recently, the American Civil Liberties Union filed a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against the Defense Department, the State Department and the Justice Department, demanding that the government provide more details about the legal basis of the drone war, including details about who authorizes drone strikes, how the targets are cleared and the rate of civilian casualties.

Koh addressed several of the concerns raised by rights groups:

Some have suggested that the very use of targeting a particular leader of an enemy force in an armed conflict must violate the laws of war. But individuals who are part of such an armed group are belligerent and, therefore, lawful targets under international law…. Some have challenged the very use of advanced weapons systems, such as unmanned aerial vehicles, for lethal operations. But the rules that govern targeting do not turn on the type of weapon system involved, and there is no prohibition under the laws of war on the use of technologically advanced weapons systems in armed conflict — such as pilotless aircraft or so-called smart bombs — so long as they are employed in conformity with applicable laws of war…. Some have argued that the use of lethal force against specific individuals fails to provide adequate process and thus constitutes unlawful extrajudicial killing. But a state that is engaged in armed conflict or in legitimate self-defense is not required to provide targets with legal process before the state may use lethal force.


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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 03:43 PM
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1. We'll be at war with everybody, forever with that attitude.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 03:43 PM
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2. :^(
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 03:44 PM
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3. Why would you ask the perp if he broke the law?
It would be a stupid lawbreaker indeed who openly admitted that he broke the law.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 03:45 PM
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4. Hopefully, the ICC will disagree and the murderers will be brought to justice.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 03:47 PM
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5. Time to throw Harold Koh under the bus, I guess.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 03:52 PM
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6. He and John Yoo could be bunkies. Same excuses, different mouthpiece.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 04:07 PM
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7. Read up on the guy.
There is more to him than being an Asian lawyer.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 05:07 PM
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8. Just reading his defense of assasinations was enough for me.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 05:15 PM
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9. Allow me, then. He's been a champion for human rights for years.
Fox/GOP et al went nuts when he was nominated to state. He beat a Republican "hold" thanks to cloture. Thomas and Scalia hate him.

His defense of the drone program is either a complete career 180, or perhaps it's just that the drone program is legal. Given his record, I'd tend to the latter; of course, I will wait until a formal policy position is released.
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