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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 08:25 AM
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(Shhh--don't tell the enemy that we're staying there forever)
bush has been rambling incoherently about how setting a time to leave Iraq, say, this October, would be the same as surrendering to the 'enemy', and that the 'enemy' would simply prepare to take over the government there as soon as we're gone.

But in reality, bush plans to have our troops there until the twelfth of never, and that's a long, long time, so don't tell the enemy or they might take advantage of us, y'see, right now the Democrats are sending the enemy a signal that we'll soon be leaving, and the enemy is planning on surrendering.

So make sure you don't let it slip to the enemy that we HAVE NO artificial timetable for withdrawal any time soon, or ever, and they'll be defeated, and we will win the big game by simply staying on the field forever.

Makes sense if you just let it.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 08:28 AM
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1. Maybe, unlike the vast majority of Americans,
the Iraqis actually read the PNAC doctrine posted online.

It's not like this is any big secret.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 08:29 AM
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2. Oh, I get it, the path to peace is more war...
yep, makes sense.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 08:30 AM
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3. Now you got it.
When something just don't make sense, just let it make sense, you'll be happier overall.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 08:30 AM
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4. fer sure. If we leave KAOS will take over.
so sayeth pResident Maxwell Smart.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 08:36 AM
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6. Well odds are pretty good Chaos will take over
And things will get a lot worse for the Iraqis in the short term. Particularly certain kinds of Iraqis.

I think we should pull out, but let's not kid ourselves about what is going to happen afterwards.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 08:38 AM
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8. I suppose I'd be callous to suggest letting the Iraqis deal with it.
Usually the U.S. sells all sides arms, so we make out like bandits either way.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 08:47 AM
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13. That's a bit callous yes; but the truth is further involvement by us
will make matters worse, not better. There's no good solution right now.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 09:50 AM
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16. more of an ironic comment to the OP than a dismissal of things to come.
looks rather chaotic right now and the Decider's refusal to come to terms with what he has unleashed is only making matters worse.

Of course I can see the media piling on the Dems, should a withdrawal of any sort occur, with a "the pResident was right, I told ya so" campaign at the ensuing bloodbath.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 09:59 AM
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17. LOL! He needs to pick up his shoe ...er..clue phone. I doubt very many
Americans buy his fear mongering and sorry a$$ excuse for why HE WON'T BRING OUR TROOPS HOME! NOW! I think the Defiant One is losing whatever grip he had on reality. He really thinks his is the last word on everything. King georgie. :rofl:
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 08:32 AM
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5. a re:puke: answer to the over population issue I guess
keep feeding the war machine young kids so as their blood can continue to oil the thing.
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Possumpoint Donating Member (937 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 08:37 AM
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7. Makes Sense
When you realize that the real purpose of invading Iraq and deposing Saddam was to gain bases and a foothold in the Middle East. Oil was only a bonus feature. We've been looking for a new base of operations ever since the Saud's put limits on what we could do and for how long we could occupy their bases. Counting on a "cake walk" and a hero's welcome they thought that in gratitude we'd be allowed to set up bases where ever we wanted.

Shows the complete ignorance of the Islamic history and mentality held by President Bush and his administration prior to the invasion. Seems like most of them still think that we will and should be granted quite possession of those bases. NOT!
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 01:18 PM
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20. We have a winner! ding*ding*
Iraq's not just about oil, or even revenge. It's about control of the Middle East. If you haven't read "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man," it's a great book that explains a lot.
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grilled onions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 08:39 AM
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9. He talks About Not Telling The "Enemy" WHen We Will Leave
I would think they would get the hint when the streets are void of servicemen and there is a lot of business at the airport, for example! Does he really think we could just sneak out of Iraq and the "dark side" won't ever know it??? :crazy:
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 08:40 AM
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10. If the troops left in the middle of the night, the enemy would just follow them here
I think.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 08:45 AM
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11. War IS Peace-didn't you get the memo?
:nuke:
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 08:45 AM
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12. Fourteen permanent military bases are prima facie evidence of the permanence
of US presence.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 08:48 AM
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14. I wish he'd just come right out & say it, everyone knows we're never leaving.
Why tippy toe around? He should just say it instead of acting like there's even a chance of it.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 11:45 AM
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18. Can't be caught at telling the truth at this late stage: the big holistic 'puke lie must continue
lest it all comes falling down on itself.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 09:01 AM
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15. So
The message from the occupiers is that we shall never leave?

With that message, there remains but one recourse for the invaded: fight to the death.

With a message like that from the Congress -- that we plan on leaving -- there opens another course for the Iraqis and instills hope that their country will one day be free, and that instituting a peaceful government is worth working for.

So, it's either fight the invaders to the bloody end, or work to build their own new government, in peace, free from outside control.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 12:41 PM
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19. sshhhhhh
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