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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 12:55 PM
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Can anyone give an official source that the FBI raids last night were about pipe bombs?
I'm reading over and over more and more frequently about pipe bombs but no one is sourcing this. The warrants are sealed and the feds are not talking so where is this info coming from?
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 12:56 PM
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1. Who knows? It was in several news stories from legitimate outlets.
But, who knows? Time will reveal more, I imagine.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 12:58 PM
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2. The Feds are not talking for obvious & justifiable (I think) reasons
so, all we can rely on is what is gleaned from "leaks" or unnamed media sources. For now...
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 12:58 PM
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3. see below
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 01:02 PM
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7. see below.
"An official for the FBI's Michigan bureau said initial court appearances are expected in Michigan on Monday." This gives the impression that the feds made the claim but they did not. Typical faux reporting.
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Fading Captain Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 01:43 PM
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26. Hard to blame Fox News
Every media outlet that has reported anything with news value has used anonymous sources.
On the record, nobody is saying anything.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 01:00 PM
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4. The source is FoxNews and their source very well could be the militias themselves.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 01:03 PM
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8. Or faux could be picking up on an internet rumor. There is no
clear sourcing of the pipe bomb assertion. It may be true but so far it is unsourced.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 01:01 PM
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5. While it seems unlikely anyone can source conclusivly at present
(and possibly, never enough for some) I doubt it was about overdue library books or parking tickets.

That kind of operation is usually well grounded in cause.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 01:01 PM
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6. Please stop citing the faux non sourced article. Notice:
"An official for the FBI's Michigan bureau said initial court appearances are expected in Michigan on Monday." This gives the impression that the feds made the claim but they did not. Typical faux reporting.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 01:03 PM
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9. I think most DUers take the media with a big grain of salt and especially FAUX.
Edited on Sun Mar-28-10 01:04 PM by blondeatlast
Wassup?

Not trying to argue with you, jyust curious.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 01:07 PM
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11. Yep, but I don't think a lot of DUers realize that the pipe bomb assertion
is coming from an unsouced faux report.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 01:09 PM
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13. I don't care.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 01:10 PM
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16. I do.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 01:11 PM
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17. Why? nt
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 01:14 PM
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18. Do you really need to ask why I care that people are spreading unconfirmed
reports of pipe bombs?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 01:21 PM
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20. I'm asking why THIS story has you so riled. THIS story.
Only THIS story.

From an objective standpoingt, it seems odd that THIS story has you so disturbed.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 01:25 PM
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21. We are barraged by misinformation and total bullshit -
most of it on the order of 'Death Panels Killed Gramma', and you are all upset that a bunch of fruitcake militia weapons nuts arrested by an interstate but tight-lipped FBI operation, might be incorrectly identified as involved with IEDs. Hell yeah we need to ask.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 01:36 PM
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22. It's coming from MSM, so as long as people know that, and that it's from Faux,
let them think what they will.

Are you actually trying to minimize the seriousness of this matter? Do you think this bust went down over a parking ticket???

FOX IS REPORTING THAT IT INVOLVED SELLING PIPE BOMBS. There. I said it, too. Make of it what you will.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 01:06 PM
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10. Why are you so disturbed by the notion that militias may manufacture pipe bombs.
If FoxNews, who arguably has the most inroads into RW terrorist groups than any other news source, wants to assert the arrests were over pipe bombs, I'm inclined to believe them.

Please note how quickly they were to distance the militias from "international terrorism" and proclaim them to be no threat to the public. That leads me to believe Fox to be reporting something they believed, but weren't necessarily happy about.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 01:09 PM
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14. You make an incorrect assumption.
I am not "disturbed by the notion that militias may manufacture pipe bombs." That may very well be the case. What bothers me so much is how fast unsourced assertions are accepted and spread. THAT is my only problem with this.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 01:37 PM
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23. The source is Faux News.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 01:08 PM
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12. You seem very concerned about this.
Offhand, I could not care less if sloppy reporting from False Noise results in linking Teabagnuts with Rightwing Militias busted by the FBI, and if those reports involve Improvised Explosive Devices, the favorite weapon of rightwing religionist extremists all over the world.

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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 01:10 PM
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15. See post 14
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 01:15 PM
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19. Good updated article here.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 01:38 PM
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24. Maybe those dogs are just there to sniff out lunchmeat?
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 01:38 PM
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25. No, because authorities at this point aren't speaking on the record. nt
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