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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 03:29 PM
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Need A DU Verdict Here... Congressman Spit On By Tea Party Protester (VIDEO) - HuffPo
Ok all you DU Video Experts... a video has surfaced! What say you???

Congressman Spit On By Tea Party Protester (VIDEO)
First Posted: 03-28-10 01:30 PM | Updated: 03-28-10 01:46 PM

Last weekend, as the House of Representatives gathered to debate health care reform while Tea Partiers protested outside the Capitol, word emerged that Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.) had been spit on by one of the demonstrators.



Cleaver released a statement confirming the incident, but some questioned his claims. Fox News personality Sean Hannity asked if there was any evidence proving that it had actually happened, and Tea Party groups offered a cash reward for proof.

Now video has emerged. Take a look and judge for yourself:

Link (w/Video): http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/28/congressman-spit-on-by-te_n_516300.html


To me, the guy is either frothing/foaming at the mouth (a form of spit), and that's what hit the congressman, or... the guy is hiding the act of spitting by holding his hands to both sides of his face in a "yelling position".

Either way, you can tell by the reaction of the Congressman, he got spit on.

So my verdict on the DU Jury is Yes... he was spit on!

:shrug:


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ChicagoSuz219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 03:31 PM
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1. It's an assault & should be treated as such. n/t
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left coaster Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 03:36 PM
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2. Agreed. nt
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 03:38 PM
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3. He was spat upon
No question about it. I wonder what transpired among Rep. Cleaver, the police officer, and the spitter when they returned to the scene. The loudmouthed turd sure acted like he had something to hide.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 03:52 PM
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7. Just watched for the seventh time, watched nothing but the guy. He DEFINITELY
spat on Rep. cleaver, no question. You can even see his cheeks/jaws move.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 03:48 PM
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4. I saw it the same way you did--tough to call for certain. But it is assault, no question. nt
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thucythucy Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 03:49 PM
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5. What is that flag
that appears on the Huffpo video between 3:20 and 3:35? Can anyone identify it?

It is red, white and black, with a white circle at the center in which there is a black symbol that looks to me like a truncated swastika. I think this is the symbol/flag of a white supremacist group like Aryan Nations or Stormfront, but I'm not sure. It certainly looks familiar to me, but I can't quite place it.

Anybody here familiar enough with some of these neoNazi groups to identify this flag as such? I wonder if the Southern Poverty Law Center has seen this video.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 03:51 PM
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6. I was wondering about that flag too
Maybe the TN state flag, but I don't know.

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thucythucy Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 04:55 PM
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10. Since posting the question
I've found an answer. It is indeed a white supremacist symbol, identified as such by the Southern Poverty Law Center.

So here is proof positive that at least some of these folks are avowed, unashamed, out and out racists. Not that we needed more proof, but it's nice to have video documentation.

You can see a close-up of a variation of this symbol at http://www.splcenter.org/media/triskelion-tattoo.

Best wishes.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 05:34 PM
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12. Thank You For That !!! - And Welcome To DU, thucythucy !!!
:bounce::toast::bounce:

Glad ta have ya aboard!!!

:hi:
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 08:53 PM
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13. If you start at 2:12
It really looks like the TN state flag.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmP4Gb2pEsY

Unless I'm looking at a different flag than you are, which could be entirely possible.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 10:21 PM
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21. It's not.
I looked at it a few times. There are no stars. It's a Triskele, and it's a White Nationalist symbol:

http://www.adl.org/hate_symbols/Triskele.asp

Hey, at least the smattering of cheers brings to light the nudity of their agenda. It indeed IS about race.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 04:21 PM
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8. It traveled far enough and was noticeable enough it wasn't flecks of spittle
That ungrateful old turd SPAT on him.

I just hope the FBI pays him a really scary visit, and soon.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 04:21 PM
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9. he was spit on
and the dude could have been and maybe should have been arrested on the spot.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 08:54 PM
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14. He was arrested, Rep. Cleaver declined to press charges. n/t
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 05:17 AM
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23. thanks
you know i knew that and forgot it and didn't see it in the video, maybe because i stopped watching it to comment...
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 05:00 PM
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11. He was assaulted, and the
spitter might be rabid.
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Glimmer of Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 09:02 PM
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15. What a disturbing scene! I can't believe these people were allowed
to be in the vicinity of the entrance and allowed such access to members of Congress. That protester should be in jail. The cop was right there!
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teacher gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 09:26 PM
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16. This is all very scary. And sad.
I watched and couldn't tell. Looked to me like maybe the guy with his hands cupped around his mouth either spit on him deliberately or did so inadvertently while yellilng.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 09:31 PM
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17. I don't need to see the video
I have known Cleaver for 30 years. He is an honorable man with a long record of public service. If he says he was spat upon, then I believe he was spat upon.

And yes the video clearly indicates he is telling the truth.
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teacher gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 09:41 PM
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18. I believe Cleaver too. n/t
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teacher gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 09:49 PM
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20. meant to say I trust you on that
I didn't watch the entire video. Another commenter just said they were laughing about it afterwards.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 09:46 PM
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19. What is even more telling to me is the aftermath
The spitter and his two buddies are standing around laughing about it. One even touches his face, re-enacting Cleaver's reaction. The would have continued their locker room bravado until the guy in the suit walks up.

If the spitter didn't do it, what was their reaction all about?
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 10:30 PM
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22. Kind of reminds me of this:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:08 AM
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24. I thought of Carlos too
The same assholes who cheered for Bush and his war are now spitting on African American congressmen.

Here in my area, they are across the street from us at HCR rallies. Same bastards.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:22 AM
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25. The congressman reacted like someone that had just been spat on.
And, the Teabagger didn't react like someone that had just been falsely accused of assault with bodily fluids.

The Teabbager did it.
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