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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 05:12 AM
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Did the Federal Government Make Money Bailing Out Citigroup?
Edited on Mon Mar-29-10 05:14 AM by Hannah Bell
The Washington Post is anxious to tell its readers that the government made a profit on its bailout of Citigroup..."The windfall expected from the stock sale would amount to a validation of the rescue plan adopted by government officials during the height of the financial panic, when the banking system neared the brink of collapse. A year ago, Citigroup's stock hovered around a dollar a share, and the bank's future seemed in doubt. On Friday, the stock closed at $4.31."

First, it is worth noting how the government got the shares of common stock which it is now selling for a profit. On November 23, 2008, the government bought $20 billion in preferred shares in Citigroup. It also received another $7 billion in preferred shares in exchange for guarantees on $300 billion in bad assets. At the time, the combined value of the investment in preferred shares and the guarantee on bad assets exceeded the full market value of Citigroup stock on November 21st, the last trading day prior to the deal. In other words, for the same financial commitment that the government made on that day, it could have owned Citigroup outright.

The logic of the Post's assertion that the profit on Citigroup stock validated the bailout is not clear. By making capital available to Citigroup at below market rates, the government effectively subsidized the income of Citigroup's shareholders. It also allowed its top executives to make millions of dollars because they were smart enough to be able to get taxpayers to subsidize the bank. The current market value of Citigroup is $123 billion, with only $33 billion belonging to the government. This means that the government has effectively given $90 billion (@ 25 million kid-years of health care provided through the State Children's Health Insurance Program or SCHIP) to Citigroup's shareholders and billions more to its executives by not demanding a market price for its support.

It is also worth noting that the government has supported Citigroup through other mechanisms. The Fed created various special lending facilities that allowed Citigroup to borrow money from the government at extremely low interest rates. Since one of the main uses of this money was buying government bonds, Citigroup was essentially getting free money from the government. IF IT BORROW $200 BILLION AT NEAR ZERO INTEREST & LENT IT BACK TO THE GOVERNMENT BY BUYING 10-YEAR T-BONDS AT 3.7% INTEREST, THEN THE GOVERNMENT WAS EFFECTIVELY HANDING CITIGROUP $7.4 BILLION A YEAR FOR NOTHING. This money is not deducted from the Post's estimate of the government's "profit" on its dealings with Citigroup. (The Fed refuses to tell the public how much money it lent to Citigroup and other banks at below market rates.)

http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/beat_the_press_archive?month=03&year=2010&base_name=did_the_federal_government_mak

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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 05:20 AM
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1. Well, this isn't surprising, is it? Thanks very much for yet another informative post. The corporate
media is so at odds with the truth.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 05:36 AM
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2. Wasn't the point to keep our financial system from collapsing?
Not to make a buck off companies in peril.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 08:03 AM
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3. The bank companies sure didn't think twice about screwing the very people that saved........
Edited on Mon Mar-29-10 08:03 AM by Double T
their miserable asses with hugely jacked up credit card interest rates and a small business credit freeze. The bank companies put themselves in peril by their own criminal behavior. The bailed out banks have had a field day using little or no interest funds from the government to continue their egregious greed.
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galileoreloaded Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 10:01 AM
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9. If you call supplanting private investment "preventing it from collapsing" then yes
of course, the only money out there right now is government money, and the velocity is under 1.0, but hey, why not. Worked for the Weimars and the Zimbabweans, right?? Right?
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 09:22 AM
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4. Kick. Too much unpleasant truth in this article, I guess.
nt
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 09:34 AM
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5. So the government broke even:
"The windfall expected from the stock sale would amount to a validation of the rescue plan adopted by government officials during the height of the financial panic, when the banking system neared the brink of collapse. A year ago, Citigroup's stock hovered around a dollar a share, and the bank's future seemed in doubt. On Friday, the stock closed at $4.31."

The logic of the Post's assertion that the profit on Citigroup stock validated the bailout is not clear. By making capital available to Citigroup at below market rates, the government effectively subsidized the income of Citigroup's shareholders. It also allowed its top executives to make millions of dollars because they were smart enough to be able to get taxpayers to subsidize the bank. The current market value of Citigroup is $123 billion, with only $33 billion belonging to the government. This means that the government has effectively given $90 billion (@ 25 million kid-years of health care provided through the State Children's Health Insurance Program or SCHIP) to Citigroup's shareholders and billions more to its executives by not demanding a market price for its support.

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Also, the government's efforts to support the economy more generally have proven a boon to Citigroup. Specifically, by pushing down interest rates it has enormously raised the value of the loans on Citigroup's books. The value of long-term loans rises substantially when interest rates fall. If the Fed's program of buying mortgage-backed securities lowered the interest rate on 30-year mortgages from 5.5 percent to 5.0 percent, then this would raise the value of Citigroup's outstanding 30-year mortgages by more than 7 percent. If Citi had $500 billion invested in mortgages or related assets, then the action by the Fed would have effectively given Citi $35 billion.

In telling readers that the profit on Citi stock "would amount to a validation of the rescue plan adopted by government officials during the height of the financial panic" the Post is ignoring all the other costs born by the government in allowing Citigroup to be restored to viability. It is also ignoring the enormous handout of taxpayer dollars to some of the richest people in the country. This is not good reporting.

Even under this spin, the government broke even. That's good news.



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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 10:00 AM
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8. Objective was to save Citigroup, part of the permanent world financial system. That's the good news.
Edited on Mon Mar-29-10 10:01 AM by Leopolds Ghost
The permanent world financial system operates at its own profit, just like the British rule of India did, and Citigroup is an element of that.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 11:18 AM
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14. Spin?
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 09:53 AM
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6. Many of us made $$$ by the govt. bailing out Citigroup.
When Citigroup stock went to $1.00 everyone and their Mom should have put all their money into it.
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 10:12 AM
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11. Hindsight is great, isn't it?
Even after the first bailout it was insolvent for a time, and Citigroup could have filed for bankruptcy at any time if the support didn't continue. If you had all your money invested, you would be broke.
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 10:48 AM
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12. Nope....
the day Citibank got down to $1.00 all of the Citi execs were buying 10,000's of shares. Then, Citi took off in the Asian markets and it was inevitable that it was going to explode.

Six weeks later we were up about 250%...it was beautiful!
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 11:11 AM
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13. If that were true, everyone else would have been buying CITI also...
Almost without exception, a stock below $5 is a significant risk.
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 11:32 AM
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16. It isn't true in most cases but it was literally a no lose situation
with Citi on March 6, 2009. There has never been an easier and more sure stock trade in the past 5 years.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 09:57 AM
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7. Shh! DUers told me anyone thinks we spent more than TARP is uninformed. We got that $ back remember?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 10:07 AM
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10. The article doesn't remotely justify the absurd claims that have been made.
Baker basically spins away the $8 billion to come to the conclusion that the government broke even.

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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 11:21 AM
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15. Just a very tiny few that appear to have unlimited time all day every day
to derail and distract.

Strangely, the post count appears to drop-off drastically after 18:00 EST.:think:


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