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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:09 PM
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Were it not for Idiot Son, would we be where we are today?
Would 911 have happened to President Gore?

Would the deficit have exploded?

Would government have gotten as big as it is now?

Would we find it necessary to have gone to Iraq?

Would it have, apart from 911, been necessary for us to go into Afghanistan?

Would the car industry have failed?

Would virtually all manufacturing jobs of note have been sent to China?

Would the mortgage crisis have happened at all?

Would the banksters have gambled us into an economic meltdown?

Would the meltdown have happened anyway?

Would we now be several years into Great Depression II? (I don't need to hear your technical definition of "depression" .... I already know it as do most others.)

Would the right wing crazies be as crazed and potentially dangerous as they are?



Were it not for eight disastrous years of Idiot Son's drunk driving, would be where we are today?

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cutlassmama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:12 PM
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1. A big resounding NO! We'd have peace and prosperity.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:13 PM
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2. Nope, he is the complete reason that this country is on the brink of collapse. n/t
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:34 PM
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11. and it is so unfortunate that some people have seemed to
Edited on Mon Mar-29-10 06:35 PM by bdamomma
forget what shit the bush regime have done, esp. those repig hypocrites on the hill, and those teabaggers!!
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:14 PM
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3. They would have replaced Dim Son with another criminal. They had it in the bag before the election.
Edited on Mon Mar-29-10 06:14 PM by valerief
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:20 PM
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4. Yes to most of those questions
Gore was in favor of getting rid of Saddam. http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp I think 9/11 or the equivalent would have happened no matter who was President. Both parties have been guilty of letting wall street run wild and they still are.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:23 PM
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5. As Clinton's VP Gore would've done stuff much differently.
Clinton's budget plan helped balance the budget and bring a surplus. Gore would've continued pushing for balanced budgets each year and moving towards Clint's "Debt Free" dream. As for 9/11, well shhh could happen either with a Democrat or Republican in the White House, right? At least Gore might have not been vacationing in Tennessee unlike the vagabond Bush. Maybe Gore would've pushed the CIA further. That's just too speculative for me to tackle at this point.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:26 PM
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6. VP Lieberman would of been remarkable!
:)

Look, the chickens were coming home to roost. Bush incompetence seemed to amplify the problems, but few did he create all by his lonesome.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:32 PM
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10. That is a point to ponder.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 07:00 PM
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19. Joe goes where the action is
If he had been VP, he would have been happy kissing hands and shaking babies.

He just wanted attention, like a two-year old child.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:26 PM
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7. Regardless of how we got here, here we are.
I wouldn't argue with a single point you make here....but what good does it do us now? Maybe one in a hundred will look back and see the connections, and how one thing leads to another. I wish it were different, but it isn't. I suspect most people are more worried about tomorrow instead of yesterday. Such is the nature of politics (all the more reason to go gung ho when given the chance...the Repubs know this.)
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:28 PM
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8. We know a piece of shit when we smell it
and that piece of shit is George W. Bu$h.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:31 PM
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9. We wouild be in a different world...and therefore our country and all those around
us would be in a much better place.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:40 PM
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13. oh yes the bush curse affected alot of countries
when america sneezes other countries catch a cold.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:40 PM
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12. and some here would still help elect another Bush to make a point against the dems
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 07:40 PM
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20. I simply do not beleive that is even a little bit true
Criticizing the current president in no way translates to wanting a republican president.
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Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:42 PM
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14. I guess I am an oddball in that
I can't seem to believe at all anymore in the titular head acting so very independently. That is like believing a fairy tale for adults.

Presidents are merely a brand name, recognizable branded package presented to the public and representing an underlying agenda. It's what's inside that package that matters. I thought that would become more obvious after Reagan and Bush Jr. proved the point.

It is so convenient and utterly useful to have a name and face that everyone can look at, point to and remember since that supports the facade that there is nobody behind the curtain even though the curtain room is full of special interests pulling strings and levers.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:49 PM
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15. We would not have an African American president
Bush made us so disgusted with the Republicans that the country -- at long last -- was able to accept a candidate it might not have accepted before.

So in that regard, I guess we have to thank Bush for making us ready for Obama.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 07:41 PM
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21. I understand what you're saying.
I disagree with your conclusion.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:50 PM
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16. no
and no, no, no hell no.

he fucked us UP.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:51 PM
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17. From the Family Guy Episode, "Meet The Quagmires"
(Peter is talking with Brian, about returning to the past to correct the present)

Peter: I don't care what it takes, Brian. I gotta get Lois back somehow.

Brian: Well, the only one who can help us is Death, and he only shows up when somebody dies.

Peter: Ah, that's gonna be tough. With President Gore's Universal Health Care, people are living much longer these days.

Brian: And with Zero Tolerance gun control and a strong, well-funded educational system, there's no street crime. Face it, Peter, you not marrying Lois was the best thing that ever happened to the world.

Peter: I don't care! We gotta find a way to summon Death, and quick!

(Jane Jetson falls out of the sky to the pavement, dead)

Peter: Well, that might do it.

(Death appears)

Peter: Death, oh thank God you're here! Listen, you gotta send me back in time again, so I can marry Lois!

Death: Man, it's been a busy day. Dick Cheney, the chairman of Haliburton, shot Supreme Court Justice Scalia in a hunting accident, and the bullet went right through him and killed Karl Rove and Tucker Carlson.

Brian: Oh my God, Peter, you can't marry Lois!

Peter: I don't know who any of those people are.

http://www.tvfanatic.com/quotes/i-dont-care-what-it-takes-brian-i-gotta-get-lois-back-somehow/
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 07:43 PM
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23. Hahaha
Good one!

:thumbsup:
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 06:56 PM
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18. In a word, NO
Idiot Son is the worst calamity to befall our nation since ... since ... I'm scratching my head trying to think of something worse. The Great Depression and Vietnam come to mind. The Civil War was horrendous, but it ended slavery.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 07:41 PM
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22. No. Hell is much too good a place for that man..
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 07:50 PM
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24. They would have tried to impeach Gore
After the arrest of 19 "Innocent" men, including 15 Citizens from our close friend Saudi Arabia, for allegedly planning to hijack 4 airliners and crash them into landmark buildings.

The GOP would have called it an implausible plan and absurd frame-up, designed to distract attention from the collapse of Enron and the sagging economy. Most Republicans find it incredible that anyone would believe such a plan would be carried out.

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