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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 07:54 PM
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ACORNing WikiLeaks - Web Publisher under Attack



ACORNing WikiLeaks - Web Publisher under Attack

By Michael Collins`

U.S. Army Counterterrorism issued a report that said WikiLeaks is a threat to U.S. security, particularly in Afghanistan. The report says that the organization should be destroyed and offered a plan. Does the government really think it can destroy WikiLeaks or is the leaked report part of a plan to smear the organization so badly, it will lose supporters and money?


More: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL1003/S00313.htm


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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 07:56 PM
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1. I'm off to see if I can donate....
Edited on Mon Mar-29-10 08:07 PM by mike_c
Sunlight is the best disinfectant, after all.

on edit-- sent $50, hope every dime is a thorn in the Pentagon's side!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 08:08 PM
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2. Sunshine Publishing ;)
You got it. Donations help and I made one too.

They're fighting our fight on the floor of the Forum. Spartacus is no where in sight but they'll
get it done.

"...we are WikiLeaks."
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 08:21 PM
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3. Whoa Nelly
Can they do it, stop wikileaks? Of course now that the encryption has been broken it can be used by any subsidiary of wikileaks that springs up. And let this be a warning, dirty little secrets are no longer safely hidden in dark corners.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 10:08 PM
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8. Dark corners may be coming back
This Counterterrorism report has simply awful statements bout WikiLinks. That's what made me think that the point might be to chase off contributors and volunteers. Hearst, the LA Times, Gannett, and the other papers that support them defend WikiLeaks in court. That's an essential part of their operation. But small, brilliant and audacious trumps large and decadent anytime.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 12:18 AM
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17. After The Last 8 Everybody Knows They're Rats
They have no integrity to stand on
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 08:33 PM
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27. I agree with you
Thanks! I needed that!!!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 08:23 PM
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4. You make a good point, autorank. Acorning them would be much more
effective than trying to nail one person and hoping it works.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 10:09 PM
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9. It's the Rove variation
We'll treat it like chess.

WikiLeaks is just too damn good for their own well being. Time to take it to yet another level.

I will make every effort to be at the news conference on the 25th.

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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 08:24 PM
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5. Is this for real?
Guess I shouldn't be shocked, I mean there's still a Republican in the WH allowing this stuff to continue.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 10:22 PM
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10. Maybe somebody will will get fired;)

I'm not holding my breath. Those corporate "persons" need to be protected. Of course, if you build
the gates too high for that community, they'll just fall over.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 08:37 PM
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6. Acorning is the new Swiftboating - nt
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 09:05 PM
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7. Well, anything that pulls back the curtain is a threat to the Empire.
I have a feeling that WikiLeaks is a bit smarter and more sophisticated than ACORN, however.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 10:33 PM
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12. Their Freudian slips are showing

I remember that it was fairly easy to understand what Bush was up to by what he condemned.

The real threat to the country is the ruinous policies that are sentencing us to life in
a debtors prison of our own making. We need collaborative policies with other nations, not
hyperbole about a small organization that is dedicated to freedom of speech and robust public
debate.

WikiLeakskk is daring and clearly staffed with brilliant people. ACORN had good leadership that
fought off every dirty tricks attack and good history and broad membership. And look how quickly
the NYT and Fox did them in. That's my concern about these charges.

The April 5 showing of the decrypted tape will be quite an event.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 10:32 PM
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11. What are they afraid of? That's all that this does, is to make them
look scared. I hope there will be huge support for WikiLeaks as they are doing the job our bought-and-paid-for media will not do.

This really is scary, but in the past we wouldn't have known about it. 'A threat to U.S. security'. As if the wars they are illegally involved in are not a threat to our security and to the security of the people whose countries they occupy. Hillarious claim. Reporting the truth is now a threat to our national security!

How about they present their side of the story and defend it if they can? These tactics are what you would have expected from some third world dictatorship.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 10:48 PM
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13. Perfect
"As if the wars they are illegally involved in are not a threat to our security ..." but I'm biased because I think this is the most telling point. That was my exact reaction to the violent radicalization bill passed by Congress at the end of 2007. They're worried about provocative speech on the internet while they're waging a deadly war with 1,000,000 casualties to civilians due to civil strife due to the war they authorized and funded. Complete insulation and madness, I'm sorry to say.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 11:43 PM
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15. I remember that well. What an Orwellian title for a bill and right in
middle of it is Democrat Jane Harman. "The Violent Radicalization Act"!

That is an excellent article by you. I see your point about the wording and how dangerous it was.

A completely bi-partisan effort to silence people on the internet. And it got so little attention at the time. And, as you say, the wars that have angered the world are ignored as any kind of threat to this country.

What happened with the bill? I was on a site that had a mixture of Dems and Republicans at the time and the rightwingers thought it was a great idea airc. Of course, they would view it differently now. I tried to point out to them how, if their party was not in power, they might think differently but that was inconceivable to them back then. They were certain that 'liberals' had been completely defeated. I hope some of them at least, have matured in their thinking since then.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 05:56 PM
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23. That bill
Well, after passing the House, it was referred to Lieberman's national security committee, but nothing was done. Here's the official word. We dodged the metaphorical bullet on this one.

I'd like to know if there are any spin offs or demonstration projects that were put in place in lieu of this bill. But it is officially dead...for now;)

From Govtrack.us

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-1955

Occurred: Introduced Apr 19, 2007
Occurred: Referred to Committee View Committee Assignments
Occurred: Reported by Committee Aug 1, 2007
Occurred: Passed House Oct 23, 2007
Not Yet Occurred: Senate Vote (did not occur)
Not Yet Occurred: Signed by President (did not occur)

This bill never became law. This bill was proposed in a previous session of Congress. Sessions of Congress last two years, and at the end of each session all proposed bills and resolutions that haven't passed are cleared from the books. Members often reintroduce bills that did not come up for debate under a new number in the next session.

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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 08:16 PM
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26. Thanks, I had a feeling it never went anywhere.
But the fact that it ever got as far as it did was chilling. People have to be so vigilant constantly watching what they are up to in DC.

Again, thanks for the information, it brought back memories of one more battle I had with rightwingnuts :-)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 11:18 PM
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14. I'm pretty sure that 3rd world dictatorships learned everything they know
Edited on Mon Mar-29-10 11:18 PM by EFerrari
from us. :)
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 11:45 PM
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16. That is probably true ~
Good point :-)
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 01:21 AM
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18. This is a fascinating development.... Wikileaks rocks
Thanks Autorank

:kick:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 10:34 AM
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21. Thanks althecat & WikiLeaks
See formercia's comment below. I think that's what this is about-evidence.

April5 will be a very interesting day.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 07:16 AM
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19. It was my understanding that the Insurgents had the ability to decrypt the Predator video.
making moot the argument about National Security. This is about exposing people to legal and criminal liability for their actions in Afghanistan. Having that video in the Public Domain will kill their legal argument when they try to squash it in Court.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 10:29 AM
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20. Well now
That raises this to a new level of clarity and significance. I should have talked to you before I
published this;) Thanks!!!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 02:18 PM
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22. kick
:kick:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 06:00 PM
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24. Meh.
Sounds like twoofer stuff.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 06:53 PM
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25. Wow. I didn't know about WikiLeaks. It is chilling, Mike.
"Does the government really think it can destroy WikiLeaks or is the leaked report part of a plan to smear the organization so badly, it will lose supporters and money?"

To use an old Kiwi saying, somehow, I think "they've got mine and Buckley's!"
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 05:43 PM
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28. Here's a Guardian article on the affair by Joseph Huss-Hannon - with
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